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Subject: War history
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: doohan-ga
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Posted: 10 Sep 2002 22:56 PDT
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Question ID: 63765
How many people has America killed in each of its international
interventions. I want a list of each event(name & date) and number of
people killed(civilians & armed forces)

Request for Question Clarification by mwalcoff-ga on 11 Sep 2002 12:54 PDT
Do you need to know only how many Americans died in wars (WWI, WWII,
Vietnam, etc.) or do you also need to know how many died in smaller
conflicts (Somalia, Lebanon, etc.)?

Clarification of Question by doohan-ga on 11 Sep 2002 17:39 PDT
How many America KILLED not died, and yes in all conflicts small and
large from 1900 onwards, i.e-
WW1
WW2
China 1945-1960s
Italy 1947-48
Greece 1947-early1950s
Phillippines 1940s and 1950s
Korea 1945-1953
Albania 1949-1953
Eastern Europe 1948-1956
Germany 1950s
Iran 1953
Guatemala 1950s
Costa Rica mid 1950s
Syria 1956-57
Middle East 1957-58
Indonesia 1957-58
Western Europe 1950s and 1960s
British Guiana 1953-1964
Soviet Union late 1940s-1960s
Italy 1950s-1970s
Vietnam 1950-1973
Cambodia 1955-1973
Laos 1957-1973
Haiti 1959-1963
Guetemala 1960
France/Algeria 1960s
Ecuador 1960-1963
The Congo 1960-1964
Brazil 1961-1964
Peru 1960-1965
Dominican Republic 1960-1966
Cuba 1959-1980s
Indonesia 1965
East Timor 1975
Ghana 1966
Uruguay 1964-1970
Chile 1964-1973
Greece 1964-1974
Bolivia 1964-1975
Guetemala 1962-1980s
Costa Rica 1970-71
Iraq 1972-1975
Australia 1973-1975
Angola 1975-1980s
Zaire 1975-1978
Jamaica 1976-1980
Seychelles 1979-1981
Grenada 1979-1984
Morocco 1983
Suriname 1982-1984
Libya 1981-1989
Nicaragua 1981-1990
Panama 1969-1991
Bulgaria 1990
Iraq 1990-1991
Afganistan 1979-1992
El Salvador 1980-1994
Haiti 1986-1994
Afganistan 2001-2002

Clarification of Question by doohan-ga on 11 Sep 2002 17:44 PDT
Sorry and

Somalia 1992-1993
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Subject: Re: War history
From: dogberry-ga on 11 Sep 2002 00:03 PDT
 
Ask the DoD for the "official" list. Ask any former SEAL or Green
Beret and he'll tell you they STAYED busy.... Expect a great many lies
from our Fed and its past adversaries. Sorry. I know.
Subject: Re: War history
From: robertskelton-ga on 11 Sep 2002 20:37 PDT
 
I don't think this information can be found accurately. The US Govt
only offers selected statistics, and most are only viewable via
Google's cache (they appear to have been taken offline). The American
War Library has a comprehensive list, but they do not publish their
sources or methodology, and include figures from terrorist attacks and
conflict-related deaths that happened years later.

American War Library
Numbers of Americans Killed/Wounded, by Action
http://members.aol.com/usregistry/allwars.htm

PRINCIPAL WARS IN WHICH THE UNITED STATES PARTICIPATEDU.S. MILITARY
PERSONNEL SERVING AND CASUALTIES
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:2OCr_g4AfVMC:web1.whs.osd.mil/mmid/casualty/SMS223R.pdf+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

WORLDWIDE U.S. ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY DEATHS 
Selected Military Operations
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:DktUfOvsgeUC:web1.whs.osd.mil/mmid/casualty/table13.htm+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

WORLDWIDE U.S. ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY DEATHS (by year)
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:_OEyYjpU9MgC:web1.whs.osd.mil/mmid/casualty/table12.htm+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

WORLDWIDE U.S. ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY DEATHS
By Place of Casualty and Casualty Group
OCTOBER 1979 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 1998
http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:ftrqDhA0wHUC:web1.whs.osd.mil/mmid/casualty/table9.htm+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

More Govt figures for Vietnam and Korea are at:
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/research_topics/casualty_records_index.html
Subject: Re: War history
From: politicalguru-ga on 27 Sep 2002 04:29 PDT
 
Dear Doohan,

A. In many cases, the United States did not act alone, but with other
nations. How do you separate death caused by the United States from
those caused (for example) by Australia in Koera and Vietnam, by the
various forces in the Lebanese mess, etc. Moreover, when the US sends
arms to another country as 'military aid', is it responsible for the
'exact' usage and death toll caused by these weapons?

B. Number of casualties and statistics in general are not accurate and
are being used by various politically motivated elements. Therefore,
although I have tried to check more than one source, but sometimes it
is hard to separate propaganda from facts, especially in Third World
Countries, where demographic data is not accurate. Moreover, there is
no free flow of information in many countries. When you read news
about Iraq, for example, that claims that X civilians died as a result
of US attack, you have no tools to verify this claim. Even when
reading on WWII, you can find 'revisionist' (Holocaust Denial) souces,
that claim that millions of Germans die at the hands of the Americans
(no, they don't mean German Jews).

C. It is very hard to separate those who died in result of the harsh
conditions related to armed conflicts (or the living conditions in
Third World Countries), and those who actually died as result of a
direct action of one force or another.

D. Another demographics note is that numbers disregard the impact the
death has. When the total population of Mongolia is around 2.5
million, but about 100,000 were murdered during 1926-1991 by the
regime - that's a blow to the community.

E. A more philosophical note regards the conclusions from such an
investigation. Since we are no clairvoyants, we have no way of knowing
what would have happened if reality was different. What would have
happened if the US did not interved in WWII? The occupation of the UK
by the Germans? The fall of the Soviet Union? The murder of the rest
of the world Jewry, that managed to survive? [this is only an
unrelated note, but there's a very light but interesting fiction
novel, 'Vaterland', that deals with these questions].

In other words, I didn't find any refutable sources that can answer
your question because of the reasons above mentioned.

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