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Subject:
IP address/domain blocking
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: digex-ga List Price: $25.00 |
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12 Sep 2002 17:00 PDT
Expires: 12 Oct 2002 17:00 PDT Question ID: 64457 |
Hello...I would like to know if there are any laws that govern blocking of IP addresses or domains (for spam, abuse, etc.). I am specifically interested to know if you have to contact someone before blocking their IP address or domain I have a situation where my IP address was blocked and prior to this I received no notification. I want to know if this is legal. |
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Re: IP address/domain blocking
Answered By: maniac-ga on 12 Sep 2002 17:39 PDT Rated: |
Hello Digex, In general, no. You did not specify a country, but if you are concerned about the United States, I am not aware of any such laws. There are certainly laws currently in some US jurisdictions about sending spam, but not about blocking spam. I can provide references on these if desired. This particular topic has gotten a lot of attention recently in a variety of web based publications. For example: Google and AltaVista blocked by China: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/09/02/china.google.reut/ http://boston.internet.com/news/article.php/1460351 Linux Kernel Mail Server Blocked: http://lwn.net/Articles/9462/ For a good background on spam blocking, there is a recent article as part of the Linux Weekly News http://lwn.net/Articles/9185/ which includes references to a number services and other articles on line. I found the paper by Paul Graham particularly interesting in how it describes elimination of spam by methods other than address blocking. Please be aware that getting your address off of the various blacklists is going to be hard and take patience. If you want some suggestions on this - please indicate the blacklists involved in a clarification request. You may also have to address the issue with your Internet Service Provider - especially if someone is taking action to get you removed based on a violation of the terms of service for your ISP. --Maniac | |
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Re: IP address/domain blocking
From: bobthedispatcher-ga on 12 Sep 2002 21:26 PDT |
Also remember that when blocking a domain, you block EVERYONE using that domain, and when using IP Blocking, many ISP's use dynamicly assigned IP addresses - the specific number may change with each login. Blocking a range of addresses (111.222.111.***) may eliminate thousands of unconnected individuals. Also mail sent thru a webmail or online form may have the domain/IP of the server, not the sender. One server could handle thousands of websites, with millions of users and visitors. |
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Re: IP address/domain blocking
From: debbi-ga on 13 Sep 2002 23:10 PDT |
Perhaps you are thinking about this: The Which Company, trading as T3 Direct, alleges that Joseph John McNicol of Southlake, Western Australia, is responsible for the company landing on a black-list run by anti-spam website SPEWS.org. The lawsuit claims more than $40,000 in damages for the black-listing. http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,4423608%5E15319%5E%5Enbv%5E15306,00.html http://www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/929761.htm Also of use to you may be: http://www.spamlaws.com |
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Re: IP address/domain blocking
From: lot-ga on 14 Sep 2002 07:12 PDT |
Altavista.com 'blocks' all UK visitors and so do a few other U.S. sites. Some sites filter country content, which is effective in targeting content, - but when in a foreign country and you want to read the English version it's quite fustrating to be directed to the local content which you can't read :-S) |
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Re: IP address/domain blocking
From: cyclometh-ga on 21 Sep 2002 14:41 PDT |
If you are referring to some person or entity simply having blocked your IP address or addresses from accessing their systems, there are no laws that I know of that would prohibit such activity. There has also been no successful lawsuit (that I know of) against an entity that maintains a "blacklist" of offending IP addresses, such as open relays. Nor is there any prohibition that I know of against the creation, maintenance or use of these blacklists. The Internet is essentially a cooperative of private networks, and if the operator of network "A" decides that he does not want traffic from network (or system) "B" then there's very little that "B" can do about it- at least in the US and, I'm relatively certain, most other countries. There is no prohibition against blocking IP addresses from accessing anything on resources you control. If there were, it would probably make firewalls illegal, which is obviously nonsensical. There are laws in some countries that have been used to force blocking of addresses, blocks of addresses or entire networks. One example is a French court ordering that Yahoo! no longer allow access to Nazi memorabilia auctions to French citizens. This case is currently still being litigated, I believe. |
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