Hi, I would like to translate "for whom I prevail" in latin, in any of
the languages variations. It would be best if the translation was in
the most remote form of this language. Please specify.
thank you

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Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 13 Sep 2002 08:56 PDT

Regarding the phrase "for whom I prevail," I presume that you mean "on
whose behalf I prevail." Are you using "prevail" in the sense of
"win," or in some other sense? In order to find just the right Latin
verb, it would be very helpful to know the context in which the phrase
will appear.

I don't quite understand what you are needing when you say you want
"the most remote form" of Latin, and that we should specify. What are
we specifying? Are we supposed to find a link online that contains the
translation? By "most remote," do you mean "most ancient" or "most
obscure?"

Sorry to bother you with so many questions, but a more precise
understanding of your need helps us to provide a better answer.

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Clarification of Question by veritasii-ga on 13 Sep 2002 11:21 PDT

Hi, yes we are looking for the most obscure form of the language, and
"prevail" is being used as "existence", if it's not possible you may
use "win".thank you

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Clarification of Question by veritasii-ga on 13 Sep 2002 11:26 PDT

Also it is to be phrased as "on whose behalf I prevail"  thank you

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Request for Question Clarification by pinkfreud-ga on 13 Sep 2002 12:09 PDT

..."prevail" is being used as "existence"...

Just wanting to verify that "for whom I exist" is the desired meaning
of your phrase. The phrase would be an expression of gratitude, I
presume, similar to the dedication of a book or poem, as in "To my
wife, for whom I live" or such?

Again, please forgive my nitpickery. It helps to have a thorough
understanding of your exact need.

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Clarification of Question by veritasii-ga on 13 Sep 2002 12:56 PDT

Hello,
Yes that is correct, "for whom I exist" would be the desired phrase.
And thank you for your patience, I should of specified the exact
terms.
KInd Regards

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Clarification of Question by veritasii-ga on 13 Sep 2002 13:01 PDT

oh and yes it is in a form of gratitude, I think of it as a statement
of personal being towards those who have helped me along the years.

Vale Veritasii -

I called a Latin scholar at my University.  He said that "cui valeo"
is the closest (and literal) translation of "for whom I prevail."  The
root of the word "prevail" is in fact "valere."  Both Julius Caesar
and Cicero used "valere" for "prevail."  The Latin may not be obscure,
but it is ancient!

I hope this has been helpful to you.

Alanna

reference: Cassell's Latin English and English Latin Dictionary, Funk
and Wagnalls, New York, 1953.

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your help. This is exactly what
I was looking for....Kind Regards