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Subject: Family name
Category: Family and Home > Families
Asked by: tiredoldman-ga
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Posted: 28 Apr 2002 10:56 PDT
Expires: 05 May 2002 10:56 PDT
Question ID: 6470
Where does the family name Kirstein originate from?
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Subject: Re: Family name
Answered By: seeker-ga on 28 Apr 2002 12:29 PDT
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
 
Thank you for your question regarding the origins of the family name 
KIRSTEIN.

The surname Kirstein appears to be of German origin.

I don't have any conclusive information on the origin of Kirstein,
however, I found the surname 'Kirchstein' in a German genealogy file (
http://feefhs.org/de/astaka/kl.html ), and that could have easily
turned
into 'Kirstein'. There's a process in Germanic languages by which
groups of
several consonants get simplified, called 'consonant cluster
reduction';
see, for example,

Germanic Philology Newsletter
http://german.lss.wisc.edu/~sgl/newsletter/nl111.html
"Open-syllable lengthening of vowels brings stressed syllables up to
this normative length; shortening of vowels in closed syllables and
reduction of consonant clusters brings syllables down to the norm or
closer
to it."

The root "kirche" in German means "church", and the root "stein"
means "stone".

There is a mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information
regarding the Kirstein surname and variations in any place and at any
time.
To subscribe send "subscribe" to:

kirstein-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or 

kirstein-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). 

From GERMAN NAMES IN AMERICA:
http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/surnames.htm
"The earliest German names are the names derived from the place of
dwelling and the location of the homestead. If a person or family
migrated from one place to another, they were identified by the place
they came from. The largest group and the most easily recognizable
names are those derived from the vocation or profession of the first
bearer. They tell you what the first bearer did for a living. There is
one group where the name derives from the first names of first bearer
and another where the names come for a physical or other
characteristic of first bearer. Finally there are names that tell you
the state or region a first bearer and his family came from; the age
old division in tribes and regions (low German, middle German and
upper German) is often reflected in names. But for non-German speakers
they are at first hard to "localize". Especially those on the Dutch
border and Northern Germany sound very much like Dutch or English
names... There are a number of clues to look for in German names, for
example, if a name ends in -mann, or, -stein, it is a likely
indication that the name is German."


For more information about Germanic Genealogy please see:

About.com's German Genealogy information page:
http://german.about.com/library/blfaq_gene.htm#1

The German Government's Genealogy page:
http://www.genealogienetz.de/genealogy.html

English/German Dictionary:
http://diction.travlang.com/GermanEnglish/dict.cgi


I hope this information has proved useful to you. Please feel free to
contact
Me if you require further clarification(s).

Seeker

Clarification of Answer by seeker-ga on 05 May 2002 16:31 PDT
If you are able to provide further information regarding the Austro-Hungarian
origin of the name for example region/area that the name originates from?

I would then be glad to further research it for you.

Thanking you

seeker
tiredoldman-ga rated this answer:3 out of 5 stars
I have some information indicating that the name Kirstein "as spelled"
originates from the Austria-Hungary combined country territory.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Family name
From: cricetus-ga on 28 Apr 2002 13:03 PDT
 
Another useful dictionary (German-English and vice versa) might be:
http://dict.leo.org
Subject: Re: Family name
From: technonymph-ga on 28 Apr 2002 15:03 PDT
 
I also found that the last name Kirstein is shared by about 800
individuals and is ranked number 28,802 in frequency in the US. I hope
that you find this info interesting. I found it at:

http://www.pdom.com/last_names_surnames.htm
Subject: Re: Family name
From: me-ga on 01 May 2002 11:01 PDT
 
Since there were no newspapers et cetera hundreds of years ago, and
people were not into being historically accurate and rather would
spread myths, therefore it is most probably a waist of time trying to
figure that out especially if its origin is prior to 1800, note: first
books printed were in the 1450's.
Subject: Re: Family name
From: tiredoldman-ga on 05 May 2002 09:38 PDT
 
I might be off on the wrong path, but I couldn't figure out how to use
this link. A seach for "kirstein" didn't yield any results.
Subject: Re: Family name
From: xaphire-ga on 04 Nov 2002 13:56 PST
 
You might look into the family name of Kastein / Karstein as well. If
you pronounce that in German and write it down in English, it might
sound like Kirstein. The Kastein family lives near the German/Dutch
border. More info can be found on my website:
http://www.twente.nl/~genealogy/families/kastein

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