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Subject:
Use of the word "upon"
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: chird-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
20 Sep 2002 00:24 PDT
Expires: 20 Oct 2002 00:24 PDT Question ID: 67169 |
Can "upon" be used in the context "He knocked upon the door"? As far as I see, "upon" means "on top of". So, the phrase "to knock upon the doors" sounds like "to knock on the top of the door." Additional thoughts: - Is there difference in UK/US english, regarding this? - When used in a songtext, should it be allowed, judging it as "artists freedom"? - My own English/Dutch dictionary says, at the word upon: " -> up". So, this is a counterexample of upon and up meaning different things |
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Re: Use of the word "upon"
Answered By: leli-ga on 20 Sep 2002 01:23 PDT Rated: |
Hi and thanks for your question. The New Oxford Dictionary of English published in 1998 gives a helpful definition of 'upon' as "a more formal term" for 'on' with the "same core meaning" as 'on'. It goes on to say that it is used mostly in "more formal contexts or established phrases and idioms". This fits with my sense as a native speaker of English who has lived both sides of the Atlantic that 'upon' is not used much in everyday conversation. But when you *do* hear 'upon', it just means 'on' not 'on top of'. In writing or in verse to be spoken or sung, 'knock upon the door' is quite acceptable as you will see from many examples here including pop lyrics, children's songs and more formal pieces of writing (although some of them are using 'knock' as a noun not a verb): ://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22knock+upon+the+door%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta= 'Knock upon the door' is one of those "established phrases" as far as poets and songwriters are concerned. Don't forget it fits into quite a different rhythm from 'knock at/on the door' and what creative writer is going to let that opportunity go? So, you can feel quite comfortable using the phrase in a song but I'd avoid it when speaking. Just remember 'upon' doesn't really have as much to do with 'up' as your dictionary suggests. I hope this helps but please ask for clarification if necessary. Good luck with your writing. Regards - Leli | |
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chird-ga
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Very complete answer, addressing all parts of my question. Thanks very much. |
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