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Subject: Internet Relationships
Category: Relationships and Society > Relationships
Asked by: steph53-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 28 Sep 2002 20:36 PDT
Expires: 28 Oct 2002 19:36 PST
Question ID: 70303
How can one know if someone is real about themselves on the internet
or just
" faking " it?????????? I recently met a person that I would like to
get to know
better......... but due to my personal confines and lack of emotional
involvement am I being overly cautious or what ??????????Is there a
some kind of study that has ever been done on this?
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Subject: Re: Internet Relationships
Answered By: leep-ga on 29 Sep 2002 02:41 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Having interest in an online person can certainly be a frustrating
experience at times.  It's not unusual to wonder if the person behind
the words is real or is indeed faking it.

While I was unable to uncover any raw data from specific studies about
this topic, various academic people have written guidelines, articles,
and books about it.  For example, in "Safety Tips for Online
Relationships," Dr. Marlene Maheu includes some interesting material
that may be obvious but items that are always good to be reminded
about.  For example, she writes: "Guard yourself against people whose
life stories are too dramatic, fantastic, or exciting.  Most people
lead ordinary lives and have regular problems."
http://www.shpm.com/articles/relation/booklet/cdpart8.html

This page refers to a poll in which 60% of those polled admitted to
frequently lying about their real identity:
http://www.geekgirls.com/net_online_relationships.htm

This CBS HealthWatch article also makes a reference to the 60% figure:
"Intimate Details, Idealized Impressions"
http://www.whoishe.com/InTheNews/News_CBS_Health_feb2000.htm

An Ohio University sociologist has written a handful of articles about
online relations, some of which touch upon finding out if the person
is "real":
http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~bakera/index.html
(Scroll down to the ARTICLES BY ANDREA BAKER section.)

There are also several books that you might track down at your local
library or bookstore.  While parts of these books deal with how to
meet people online (a subject I don't think you were asking about),
they do contain sections on how to "feel out" that online person
you've become interested in:

"Online Seductions: Falling in Love With Strangers on the Internet" -
This book is by a psychiatrist and, as noted in Amazon's editorial
review, "does an especially good job of highlighting the danger signs
that your correspondent may be a pathological personality."
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1568362757

"Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Dating and Relating"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789721694

"Meet Me Online"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/188477878X

"Virtual Foreplay: Making Your Online Relationship a Real-Life
Success"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0897933303

I hope this information is useful.  If you would like me to dig a
little further, please post a clarification so that I can better hone
in on the exact type of info you are looking for.  I hope things work
out well between you and the other person!

Search terms used:
"online relationships" "real person" safety


leep-ga

Clarification of Answer by leep-ga on 29 Sep 2002 15:12 PDT
One other thing I wanted to mention.  I don't know if you are familiar
with the "Kaycee Nicole" situation that was exposed last year, but
it's well worth reading about.  Basically, it was revealed that
Kaycee, a person who supposedly was dying from cancer and who had made
many many friends online over a lengthy amount of time, did not
actually exist.  She was a hoax.  Finding out the truth in this
situation startled many people in various online communities.  They
didn't know if they could believe in any online person anymore.  While
this certainly is an extreme in "faking it," learning about Kaycee
helps remind us of how easily we can become emotionally attached to
words and people that appear on our little computer screens.

Some things to read:

news article from the Guardian in the UK:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internetnews/story/0,7369,497422,00.html

short Kaycee FAQ
http://rootnode.org/article.php?sid=26

many links about the whole Kaycee Nicole Story:
http://www.logboy.com/jr/main.asp

for many more pages on the Kaycee thing, use this Google search:
://www.google.com/search?q=%22kaycee+nicole%22
steph53-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thanks Leep-ga- great answer!!! And Macgyvr64-ga and Missy-ga thank
you too. Guess its time to hit the library........Great input from all
of you.

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Subject: Re: Internet Relationships
From: macgyvr64-ga on 28 Sep 2002 22:29 PDT
 
Over a year ago, I met a female online, and we chatted for long
periods of time late into the night...we were immediately comfortable
around each other, so recently I flew out to Montana to visit her.  It
couldn't have gone better.  She was everything I expected and then
some.  Thanks to the internet, I've got myself a wonderful, caring
girlfriend.

In your case..."lack of emotional involvement"?  That can't be too
good...
Subject: Re: Internet Relationships
From: missy-ga on 29 Sep 2002 00:32 PDT
 
Hi Steph,

How are you?  I handled your first question to Google Answers, and I'm
glad to see you back with us.  I had considered posting this as an
answer, but changed my mind.  I haven't been able to find a definitive
study for you, so all I have to offer you are my personal
observations.

The answer to your question is...

You can't, really.  But if it makes you feel any better, you can't
know for certain if the fella chatting you up in the grocery store is
really what/who he says he is until you take the time to get to know
him, either.

We've all heard the horror stories - nice girl meets boy at school/in
a bar/at church.  He's wonderful, he's charming, he says he has a
terrific job, a great education.  She falls for him, and they're happy
together until he slips up and one after another, his lies begin to
unravel.  He's not who he claimed he was.  Or maybe she's not who she
claimed to be.  I supppose, Steph, that there's always the chance for
deceit, whether online or out here in the Real World.

Can I help you ease your mind a little?

In five years of wandering the Internet daily, I've met some of the
most wonderful people imaginable.  Usenet is my passion - in
particular, a group devoted to the discussion of a certain author. 
That group is populated by people of every persuasion and educational
background, people who write about their thoughts with such heart and
such detail.  In a group like that, private correspondence is often
spawned from public discussions - sometimes to nitpick over a point,
sometimes to lend a word of encouragement when someone is having a
rough go of things.  Such correspondence has led me to some of the
most wonderful friends anyone could ask for.  We regularly visit each
other's homes - they've come to stay with me and my family, and have
hosted me or my family and  me many times over.  We have all become an
extended family, and I am grateful for it every day.

I met my very best friend through that newsgroup - a bright,
hilarious, warm hearted young man who never fails to make me smile. 
We participated in newsgroup discussions and private correspondence,
began using ICQ to keep in touch, and one evening...he called.  And we
talked.  And laughed.  And laughed some more.  Having been involved in
the same newsgroup for more than a year, and having had quite a lot of
correspondence and chat time, we were immediately comfortable with
each other.

That was in 1998.  Since then, not a day goes by that we don't either
talk on the phone, play e-mail tag or while away a little time on ICQ
- sometimes all three in a day.  He's come to Ohio to visit with me,
I've been to California to visit with him.  He and I have spent time
together at newsgroup gatherings, and he recently joined my children
and me on vacation with another friend from the newsgroup in Chicago.

I can't imagine life without his presence now.  I'm glad that on that
day four years ago - when he said my letters sounded really depressed
and he wanted to call me to make sure I was OK - I remembered all of
our public conversations and private ones, and all of the silly notes
of encouragement and teasing about some newsgroup post or other, and
held my breath and gave him my phone number.

Just like meeting someone in Real Life, sometimes you just have to
give them the benefit of the doubt.

There are ways to be safe online, to protect yourself from potential
scams:

--never give personally identifying information to someone until
you're absolutely comfortable with them.  Are they pushing you too
hard or too fast?  Making wild claims about what they do or how much
money/property/status they have?  Bail.  Turn around and run in the
other direction.  It's the people who push too hard, try to hard to
impress, that one should watch out for.

--before taking things to the phone, correspond for a while.  Write
letters!  Long ones, short ones, it doesn't matter.  Talk about
everything with this person - work, hobbies, common interests.  Do the
responses ring true or do they sound forced?  Are you comfortable
corresponding?

--have a few phone conversations.  Does the conversation flow freely? 
Or does it sound scripted or strained?

--if you're comfortable after corresponding and talking on the phone
for a while and you decide you really must meet in person, do it in a
public place.  Meet for lunch somewhere, and be certain to either
bring a friend along or inform her of your whereabouts.  Your new
friend wants to keep the meeting secret?  Say NO!

A little caution isn't a bad thing, Steph.  Just odn't let it color
everything and become too much caution!  You can meet new people on
the 'Net and get to know them very well if you just take your time and
make sure to be safe.  I hope that with a little patience and trust,
you'll find the same kind of wonderful friends online that I have.  I
wouldn't trade these people for anything.

I wish you all the best!

--Missy
Subject: Re: Internet Relationships
From: pankyasare-ga on 29 Oct 2002 02:38 PST
 
I 100% agree with Missy. I have had lots of internet chat friends and
now they are my real friends. A girl i met on chat out of the blue is
my wife now and we are indeed grateful to internet.(even our kid is)
YU Cant trust anyone real or virtual, all depends on how we take on
the approach, how careful we are. I mean yu cant just give away ur
phone number in the first week of internet friendship. Anyway All the
best, think postive but take care too.

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