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Subject: us zimbabwe relations
Category: Relationships and Society > Politics
Asked by: gubernacullum-ga
List Price: $14.00
Posted: 07 Mar 2006 09:38 PST
Expires: 06 Apr 2006 10:38 PDT
Question ID: 704594
how can us foreign policy be adapted to facilitate economic and
technological development in zimbabwe?
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Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 11 Mar 2006 01:29 PST
 
I think the US should follow the example made in Iraq, where a
dictator was murdering and oppressing his people in the same way.

Wait a minute, Zimbabwe doesn't have oil so I guess the best bet is ignore it.
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: politicalguru-ga on 11 Mar 2006 02:49 PST
 
murunbuchstansinger, 

Zimbabwe is under sanctions, despite the lack of oil.
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: politicalguru-ga on 11 Mar 2006 02:52 PST
 
BTW, I feel awkward to be the one defending Mugabe, but he wasn't
charged by anyone of having murdered a rebelious ethnic group with
chemical weapons. He doesn't threaten any country in his region
(unlike Saddam, attacking Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Israel on
separate occasions). Should I carry on?
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 11 Mar 2006 04:31 PST
 
Mugabe murder squads use acid
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1497

Mugabe accused of mass murder
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/1844779.stm

Mugabe's policy of murder
http://www.genocidewatch.org/ZimbabweFacingMassMurder12August2005.htm

Mugabe held liable for murder by US courts
http://www.afrol.com/News2001/zim035_mugabe_liable.htm

Search term used "mugabe murder"

Time taken <2 minutes

Knowledge needed - a bit about the world outside of the USA.
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: politicalguru-ga on 11 Mar 2006 05:19 PST
 
I stand corrected. And then again, my first claim stands: Zimbabwe is
under sanctions.
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 11 Mar 2006 07:31 PST
 
The sanctions simply target "specifically identified individuals and
entities in Zimbabwe."

This is not against Zimbabwe per se.

http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/zimbabwe/zimb.pdf

Forgive my cynicism in connection with these sanctions, but they are
open to interpretation and to circumvent them hardly seems difficult.

Compare these to the sanctions against, shall we say, some other
countries where mass murders have taken place.
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: myoarin-ga on 11 Mar 2006 15:33 PST
 
Murun,
Thanks for the link to the site on sanctions.  Real neatsy keen, and
wow!  -  $500,000 fine if one ignores it -  but where does one get a
list of the bad people, or has the list even been made?
(Don't bother to reply if you don't know.)
Regards, Myoarin
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 12 Mar 2006 15:21 PST
 
Not sure if this is comprehensive or up to date even, but here ya go:

http://www.zimbabwedemocracytrust.org/outcomes/details?contentId=1683

I haven't read this in detail, but seems the same gist as that cited
on the US Treasury website:
http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/zimbabwe/charts/zimb_chart.pdf
Subject: Re: us zimbabwe relations
From: myoarin-ga on 12 Mar 2006 17:31 PST
 
Hey, thanks for taking the trouble.  I hope it wasn't too time consuming.
Greatly appreciated, Myoarin

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