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Subject: Plant identification
Category: Science > Biology
Asked by: lalli-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 29 Sep 2002 16:43 PDT
Expires: 29 Oct 2002 15:43 PST
Question ID: 70582
I am looking for the name of a night blooming perennial plant. Flowers
open at dusk and close at dawn. Color is pale lemon yellow. Leaves
similar  to dandelion leaves and set in a flat circle near the ground,
ca l foot in diameter
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Subject: Re: Plant identification
Answered By: crabcakes-ga on 29 Sep 2002 20:40 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
lalli,

This was certainly a picturesque  and enjoyable question to research,
and
I think the yellow evening primrose is the plant you are looking for!

Yellow Evening Primrose: Opens in bloom in the early evening, and
closes just after sunrise, staying open a bit longer on cloudy or
overcast days.
http://uvalde.tamu.edu/herbarium/case.htm

http://www.rimjournal.com/arizyson/wldflowr/yellowos/yelprimr.htm

http://www.nps.gov/whsa/primrose.htm

http://www.joshuatree.org/wildflowers/yelprim.html

If not the primrose, perhaps one of these yellow night blooming
flowers are what you are searching for:

Oenothera biennis:

http://www.liberherbarum.com/Pn0498fd.htm

http://res2.agr.ca/london/pmrc/english/herbs/oenothera.html

http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/plant_profile.cgi?symbol=OEBI



Mirabilis jalapa

http://natureproducts.net/Forest_Products/Ornamentals/Mirabilis.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A774704


Night blooming cereus is really a cactus:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/344/10849

http://www.hawaiicolors.com/Night%20Blooming%20Cereus.html


Yellow Lantana, not solely  a night bloomer, but fits the leaf
description:
http://equineestates.com/library/plants/lantana.htm

http://gateway.library.uiuc.edu/vex/toxic/lantana/lantana0.htm


Oenothera Missouriensis, also known as Ozark sundrops, or Missouri
primrose, is a night blooming perennial. It likes sunny dry areas in
the yard. The flowers are 4-5 inches, bright yellow, and they are only
open for one day, but they keep on flowering all summer!
http://www.thegardenhelper.com/screensaver/DDG/oenotherapix.html


Yellow corydalis;
http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/plant_profile.cgi?symbol=COFL3

I am unable to find any other yellow night-blooming perennials ,
except those mentioned above. The site below gives a list of night
blooming flowers:
http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/garden/flower/nightbloom.html

If these are not a match for the plant you are searching for, please
ask for an answer clarification before rating.

Regards,
crabcakes

Request for Answer Clarification by lalli-ga on 30 Sep 2002 15:37 PDT
Dear crabcakes-ga,
Thank you for your very thorough answer. I checked all the versions
and can only find two that are similar. The first one i found at
www.joshuatree.org etc but maddenly enough, there was only an
illustration, no identification or other info.  I assume it is a
yellow evening primose as it was listed under the primrose.  The other
similar but much larger is the Oenothera Missouriensis.
If I had known that there are so many variations I would have given a
better description: 1-2" flowers have 4-or 5 petals, sit singly on a
slim leafless stalk ca 4-5" tall. Buds are oblong and flowers open so
quickly that you can see the petals move. The seed pods hide at the
base of the 1-foot round flleafbase. With thanks, lalli-ga

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 30 Sep 2002 23:06 PDT
lalli, 

I am sorry I did not yet supply you with the flower identification,
but I am working on it! I am posting this much for now, with more to
follow....could you let me know if any of these are the flower you are
asking about? I am continuing to search, but wanted you to know I am
attempting to find exactly the flower you are asking about.

What part of the country (world?) did you see this plant? Do you
remember any scent?

When I click onto the joshuatree link, 
http://www.joshuatree.org/wildflowers/yelprim.html link, I get a
photo, but
you are right, there is  no identification. Yes, it is the primrose. 


Another list of night blooming flowers. It seems the same night
blooming flowers are on each list, and it is not a long list!
http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Flowers/night.htm


Lady of the night (BRUNFELSIA AMERICANA)
http://www.rareflora.com/brunfelsiaamer.htm
and
http://www.virtualherbarium.org/gl/brunfelsiaamericana86483a.jpg 
(This site has no description, but came up on Google Images when I
entered it?s name)


Aconitum lamarkii
https://www.secured-space.com/4/perennials/a03.html

Nicotania:
http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/spectrum/15.shtml


I will post more within 24 hours.

Regards, crabcakes

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 01 Oct 2002 15:33 PDT
lalli, I am thinking the primrose may just be it!

Evening primrose:
Alas, this site also has just a sketch, but the description sounds
like yours:
"This common plant growing in dry soil and disturbed land around
roadsides
 and fields attracts attention by its bright yellow flowers growing at
the top of
 1- to 5-foot-tall leafy stalks. Flowers are 1-2 inches wide,
pleasantly
 lemon-scented, with four petals and four sepals that are reflexed or
bent
 back and come from the top of a floral tube. This interesting plant
is
 night-flowering. Flowers open in the evening within a matter of
minutes, last
 through the night, and wilt by the next day. Flowers are pollinated
by
 night-flying moths and insects attracted by the flower's scent.
Leaves are 4-8
 inches long with small teeth at the edges and oblong or linear in
shape. Fruit
 is an oblong capsule, and the clusters of capsules are conspicuous in
fall. As
 its scientific name indicates, this plant is a biennial. It forms a
rosette of 2- to
 6-inch-long leaves and a taproot in its first year and flowering
stalks in the
 second. The stems may be red. Native to America, this plant was taken
to
 Europe in the 1600s, where it was grown for its edible, sweet-tasting
root. American Indians used
 the plant for food and medicinal purposes. Wild birds eat the seeds."

http://www.wvu.edu/~agexten/hortcult/flowers/wldflwrs.htm#Primrose 


http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/scripts/weed.dll/getone.520.htm


http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/literatr/wildflwr/species/calyserr.htm

http://www.rimjournal.com/arizyson/wldflowr/yellowos/yelprimr.htm



Four o'clocks
Not a leafless stalk, and an annual at that, but it's a night bloomer!
http://www.gardenguides.com/seedcatalog/flowers/fouroclock.htm




Non-night bloomers (Just in case!)

California Poppy:
http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/poppy/cal.html

http://www.swsbm.com/Images/D-G/Eschscholtzia_californica.jpg

http://www.mindbird.com/eschscholzia_californica.htm

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/poppy/rho.html

Other night bloomers:

http://www.vnwg.com/plants_nightbloomers_intro.jsp?catid=32

http://www.plantanswers.com/tropical_night.htm


Let me know if these indentify your flower, and I will look further. I
must say, knowing that evening primrose is "supposed" to grow in
Arizona, makes me want to go buy some! So little grows when I want it
to here!

Regards,
crabcakes

Request for Answer Clarification by lalli-ga on 02 Oct 2002 18:46 PDT
Dear crabcakes, Thank you for your quick answer. I will go through he
new suggestions asap. The plant lives in my garden in upstate NY,
Oneonta, zone 4.  Thrives in sun. Supposedly it spreads by the seeds
from the pods at the base, which has not happened yet, as the plant
was given to me last fall.  It has bloomed practically all summer well
into September with up to 5 flowers at the same time. The scent is not
pleasant,but there is a scent, hard to describe but musty? I am now
thinking that it might be native to NY state. I will find out tomorrow
if it grows a stalk the second year but I think it stays low to the
ground  and that the plant is only totally 6-7" tall. The scent is not
lemon. I think I am taking up a lot of your time, I leave it up to you
if you want to continue your search.  Best regards, Lalli.

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 02 Oct 2002 19:03 PDT
lalli, thanks for the additional information. Of ocurse I will look
further! It may take me a day of two, but I will try to locate that
bloomin' bloom!
~crabcakes

Request for Answer Clarification by lalli-ga on 03 Oct 2002 07:54 PDT
Dear crabcakes, My friend told me that this plant does not grow tall.
The leaves base stays low, ca 2" and shoots the flowers up ca 6" on
leafless thin stalks. The leaf disk multiplied, so  I  had three disks
that I divided and replanted separately recently.  They seem very
chipper  The root was surprisingly thick, the size of a tennisball. 
My friend has had her plants for at least 4 years, and none has grown
a stalk.  Hope this helps.  With thanks, Lalli.

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 03 Oct 2002 09:06 PDT
lalli, Thanks for your patience and additional information. I am on
this...but I need to ask you to wait a day or two more.....Thanks,
crabcakes

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 04 Oct 2002 16:53 PDT
lalli,

Here are a few more to look at. I have not, nor will I give up ---
Yet!

http://www.cloudnet.com/~djeans/FlwPlant/Yarrow.htm

http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?shapeID=8&curGroupID=19&curPageNum=71&recnum=WF0040

Click on the yellow flower on left side:
http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/bloom/hbulb.html


Another primrose, native to New England:
http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?curGroupID=19&shapeID=8&range=1007&curPageNum=113&recnum=WF0131


Try these as I continue to look!
Thanks for your patience......I'm still working on this!

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 04 Oct 2002 16:58 PDT
This one does not say anything about being a night bloomer, but I will
continue posting this kind. I have, on this site, found others that
are known to be night-blooming, yet that characteristic is not
mentioned on here.

A few more "tries"

http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?curGroupID=19&shapeID=8&range=1007&curPageNum=135&recnum=WF1383

http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?curGroupID=19&shapeID=8&range=1007&curPageNum=140&recnum=WF1979

http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?curGroupID=19&shapeID=8&range=1007&curPageNum=149&recnum=WF0425

http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?curGroupID=19&shapeID=8&range=1007&curPageNum=178&recnum=WF0383

http://enature.com/fieldguide/showSpeciesLBJShape.asp?curGroupID=19&shapeID=8&range=1007&curPageNum=156&recnum=WF0832

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 05 Oct 2002 00:31 PDT
This site says Nicotania is a night bloomer.(Under Exotic plants-Night
Bloomers)
http://gardening.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gardenforum.com%2Fmoonlight.html

This site doesn’t.?????
http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/spectrum/15.shtml


Nice group of night bloomers listed here . (I think I have already
given sites with pictures of these however)
http://www.arhomeandgarden.org/landscape/HomeLandscaping/SpecGardening/Night_Gardening.asp

Scroll down to Missouri Primrose and Yellow Horned Poppy
http://www.heirloomnursery.com/Perennials.htm
I'll be back....

Request for Answer Clarification by lalli-ga on 05 Oct 2002 14:30 PDT
Dear crabkakes,
I have checked all the suggested websites and not found the exact
match. It is the low growth habit that is different in my plant; the
flat round base with leaves growing out from a center from which
leafless flower stems also shoot up.   It seems that we are dealing
with a variation of the Yellow Evening Primrose. I still think that it
could be some local native variation. Will check with the Cornell
Cooperative Extension service her in town hopefully Monday.  Will let
you know if I find out anything.  I am amazed at the amount of
variations you have come up with.  Lalli.

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 05 Oct 2002 15:48 PDT
lalli, I too have contacted an extension service, and sent an e-mail
to our Botanical Gardens. Am waiting. I will continue to look. Thanks
for being patient! crabcakes

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 06 Oct 2002 19:36 PDT
lalli, 
Several of my esteemed researcher colleages put their collective heads
together and came up with some extra sites to check. I have checked
the first site (the New York link was dead tonight), but again, came
up empty. Perhaps something in one of these sites will match your
elusive night-bloomer!
http://www.botany.net/IDB/subject/botpics.html

http://members.tripod.com/%7eHatch_L/tlankey.html

http://www.bbg.org/

http://www.nygardener.com/

knowledge_seeker, in a comment below, made a wonderful suggestion
about posting some pictures to make the identification easier. If you
post photos, please notify me by way of another answer clarification,
and I will try by best to find this plant.

I don't often give up easily, but if I can't find this cotton-pickin'
plant soon, I may have to !
Again, thanks for your patience.

Regards,
crabcakes

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 11 Oct 2002 18:36 PDT
lalli,
I have been unable to locate any more information on your plant.
Several of my fellow researchers also worked on this question, and yet
none of us were able to make a positive identification.

You are well within your rights to request a refund since I was unable
to properly answer your question.

Regards,
crabcakes

Request for Answer Clarification by lalli-ga on 16 Oct 2002 08:54 PDT
dear crabcakes,
i have broken my arm, and have problems writing. i get no findings
from the local extension service, and think we should give up for now.
i took photos but developer lost the film. now i have to wait til next
summer.  have checked all your suggested websites and found nothing.
you have done a marvelous job ttrying to help.  maybe i will post the
question again next year with pictures.
gratefully, lalli.

Clarification of Answer by crabcakes-ga on 16 Oct 2002 15:20 PDT
lalli-ga, Too bad about the pictures. I will keep this plant in mind,
and will post a clarification should I find it- That way you'll be
notified if I find this stealthy plant!
~ crabcakes
lalli-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
crabcakes has a lot of determination and did all he/she could. lalli.

Comments  
Subject: Re: Plant identification
From: knowledge_seeker-ga on 06 Oct 2002 07:52 PDT
 
A quick suggestion to lalli ...

Why don't you take a picture of the flower and/or plant and post it at
yahoo pictures. Make sure to get close ups of the flower and the
leaves, and put a ruler or something near it to give us an idea of
scale. It might save crabcakes from chasing down the wrong path ...

YAHOO PHOTOS
http://photos.yahoo.com/

-K~

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