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A research in Shi'a philosophy - “Ghadir(-e) Khum” remarks by Prophet Mohammad
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion Asked by: jackwatson-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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11 Mar 2006 02:20 PST
Expires: 10 Apr 2006 03:20 PDT Question ID: 706039 |
I am interested in Islam Religion and recently I have had some researches. While reading the history of last trip of ?Prophet Mohammad? before his death, I understood that by finishing Tamattu Haj ritual, in return he stopped at a placed named ?Ghadir(-e) Khum? (between Mecca & Medina) and asked everyone to stay for some days. He had some speeches and remarks over there which is the base for Shia Philosophy. I want to know everything about it in details, if Sunny Muslims accept this "last will" and why Shia celebrates this anniversary? I need to find the whole text of what Prophet Mohammad raised in said place thoroughly. |
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Re: A research in Shi'a philosophy - “Ghadir(-e) Khum” remarks by Prophet Mohammad
From: alghafli-ga on 03 Apr 2006 12:28 PDT |
the shia claims that the prophet stopped in ghadeer ghom and told Muslims that ali bin abi taleb is his successor in a very clear way but the sunna either deny this or deny he says his cousin is the successor they support this by other evidence like what happened after mohammad passed away when ali ben abi taleb were a consoltant for the three kalifahs before him (he was the 4th one) and he named three of his sons abu bakr omar and Othman and if he did so he is not in conflict with them. The shia believe of ali succession has concequnces. The shia believe that God should choose successor and the majority of shia believe successor of the prophet are 12 (they are called shia twelvers ),the last 1 was born around 255H ( im given an approximatation ) and he is alive till now this means he is more than 1000 years old. Shia call successors of the prophet imams so there are 12 imams for shia ?this is deferent than prayer leader the imam- and ther are all chosen by god we have no right of choosing them the last imam has disappeare so the leaders of shia like kamanaie in iran but they are temporary leaders until he the 12th imam come back . some shia also believe the sahabah did not listen to the prophet and have chosen kalifah out of shoura ?negotiation ? the way abu bakr has became kalifah or appointing like omar or out of limited voting like the way Othman has become kalifah. ( omar bin alkhattab says that 6 people has the right to vote he named them) then after Othman passed away the population chose ali. So many shia believe many sahabah are ordinary person and they do not respect many of them like abu bakr omar and Othman and many others. I think the best thing to know more about this is to see an Islamic society probably there are one or more for shia and one or more for sunna in big states like texas im just guessing. |
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Re: A research in Shi'a philosophy - “Ghadir(-e) Khum” remarks by Prophet Mohammad
From: alghafli-ga on 03 Apr 2006 12:43 PDT |
If you are really interested in finding the whole text of what the prophet said you have to look at the sanad of the headeeth. There are defferent text for the same hadeeth. you are getting deep there. And this is the whole point did the prophet actually said ali is his successor or he didn?t. the shia and sunna have defferent ways of looking at hadeeths But be aware shia not only believe in ali?s succession but they also believe he did not do any mistake at all this is a very centralized thing in their believe the same thing is true for the other 11 successors. And many shia believe mohammad ali fatimah alhassan and al hussain were created before the universe and things like this. Let?s say you have made a research in this and you have concluded ali is the right kalifah that does not makes from shia Me for example im historically from shia ? means my parent are shia ? but technically im not because I don?t believe that ali and the 11 imam after him never ever do mistakes. Sunna do not believe that God appointed the 12 imams though they thing they are good people. |
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