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Subject: East Timor war
Category: Relationships and Society > Politics
Asked by: gsw110576-ga
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Posted: 11 Mar 2006 13:22 PST
Expires: 10 Apr 2006 14:22 PDT
Question ID: 706175
How many people were killed in East Timor between 1975-1991?

Request for Question Clarification by tlspiegel-ga on 11 Mar 2006 21:08 PST
Hi gsw110576,

Please let me know if the following information answers your question
by posting a clarification request for me to post in the answer box.

Coders Bare Invasion Death Count
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70196-0.html

"The citizens of East Timor who perished during Indonesia's brutal
24-year occupation of their tiny island nation might have died
unaccounted for -- as many civilians do in military conflicts around
the world. But a group of determined programmers and statisticians
refused to let that happen.

On Thursday, the Human Rights Data Analysis Group released a report
documenting over 102,000 civilian deaths in the former Portuguese
colony, which occurred from a year prior to the Indonesian army's
invasion in 1975, to the country's 1999 independence referendum that
formally ended the occupation.

Group director Patrick Ball says the data included an estimated 18,600
people who were murdered or disappeared, and approximately 84,200
citizens who died due to hunger and illness in excess of what would be
expected during peacetime."

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The National Security Archive
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB62/

East Timor Revisted

"An estimated 20,000 Indonesian troops were deployed to the region by
the end of the month.  While casualty estimates vary, anywhere from
60,000-100,000 Timorese were probably killed in the first year after
the violence began in 1975.  In 1979 the U.S. Agency for International
Development estimated that 300,000 East Timorese?nearly half the
population?had been uprooted and moved into camps controlled by
Indonesian armed forces.  By 1980 the occupation had left more than
100,000 dead from military action, starvation or disease, with some
estimates running as high as 230,000."

[edit]

18. Schwarz, 205; Estimates vary widely. On November 12, 1979,
Indonesia?s foreign minister, Mochtar Kusumaatmadja, estimated that
120,000 people had died in East Timor since 1975. See Taylor?s
chronology, ?East Timor: Contemporary History,? in Carey and Bentley,
East Timor at the Crossroads, 240; Amnesty International estimates
that 200,000 died from military action, starvation or disease from
1975-1999. See Amnesty International, ?200,000 Dead. Enough is
Enough.? New York Times, September 23, 1999.

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Best regards,
tlspiegel

Clarification of Question by gsw110576-ga on 13 Mar 2006 05:15 PST
Hi tlspiegel-ga, TNX for your answer....I see there are several
versions to the amount of people that were killed.
I posted two more questions in the same issue and got no respond. do u
know anything about that ?
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Subject: Re: East Timor war
Answered By: tlspiegel-ga on 13 Mar 2006 09:01 PST
 
Hi gsw110576,

Thank you for your interesting question and for accepting my findings.
 Yes, there are different accounts to how many were killed.

Coders Bare Invasion Death Count
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/1,70196-0.html

"The citizens of East Timor who perished during Indonesia's brutal
24-year occupation of their tiny island nation might have died
unaccounted for -- as many civilians do in military conflicts around
the world. But a group of determined programmers and statisticians
refused to let that happen.

On Thursday, the Human Rights Data Analysis Group released a report
documenting over 102,000 civilian deaths in the former Portuguese
colony, which occurred from a year prior to the Indonesian army's
invasion in 1975, to the country's 1999 independence referendum that
formally ended the occupation.

Group director Patrick Ball says the data included an estimated 18,600
people who were murdered or disappeared, and approximately 84,200
citizens who died due to hunger and illness in excess of what would be
expected during peacetime."

=========

The National Security Archive
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB62/

East Timor Revisted

"An estimated 20,000 Indonesian troops were deployed to the region by
the end of the month.  While casualty estimates vary, anywhere from
60,000-100,000 Timorese were probably killed in the first year after
the violence began in 1975.  In 1979 the U.S. Agency for International
Development estimated that 300,000 East Timorese?nearly half the
population?had been uprooted and moved into camps controlled by
Indonesian armed forces.  By 1980 the occupation had left more than
100,000 dead from military action, starvation or disease, with some
estimates running as high as 230,000."

[edit]

18. Schwarz, 205; Estimates vary widely. On November 12, 1979,
Indonesia?s foreign minister, Mochtar Kusumaatmadja, estimated that
120,000 people had died in East Timor since 1975. See Taylor?s
chronology, ?East Timor: Contemporary History,? in Carey and Bentley,
East Timor at the Crossroads, 240; Amnesty International estimates
that 200,000 died from military action, starvation or disease from
1975-1999. See Amnesty International, ?200,000 Dead. Enough is
Enough.? New York Times, September 23, 1999.

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Regarding your comment:  "I posted two more questions in the same
issue and got no respond. do u know anything about that ?"

I did see your other question:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=706290

Who did the killing and with what weapons?
Where did they get the weapons from?

There were several comments made but no answer.  I don't have any
solid information for you on who did the killing, with what weapons,
and where they got the weapons.  I only was able to find the answer to
this question - on how many were killed.


Keyword search:

East Timor War statistics how many killed

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Best regards,
tlspiegel
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