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Q: PT. Westjava Electronic is a scam or real company ??? ( Answered,   3 Comments )
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Subject: PT. Westjava Electronic is a scam or real company ???
Category: Business and Money > eCommerce
Asked by: asce-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 20 Mar 2006 03:57 PST
Expires: 19 Apr 2006 04:57 PDT
Question ID: 709491
Please check this company.

Is it a real or scam company? 

PT.Westjava Electronic

Contact person:	Mr. Paul Ivan

Phone:	        62-22-70337259
Fax:	--
Address:	Bandung Trade Centre ,Blok P-II No. 30-32. Jl. Dr Djundjunan 
                No. 143-149
City:	        Bandung
Country:	Indonesia [ID]
Zip Code:	40162
Website:	http://vip.busytrade.com/westjava
                http://www.westjavatronic.com

Thank you,

asce-ga
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Subject: Re: PT. Westjava Electronic is a scam or real company ???
Answered By: answerfinder-ga on 20 Mar 2006 05:11 PST
 
Dear asce-ga, 

It is my opinion, it is a scam.

Domain name owner is supposedly from the UK and yet the company is
Indonesian. Domain registered only in February 2006. The company does
not appear on the Indonesian company register. Conflicting
self-promotioning information posted on trade directories. Links to
other suspicious sites (not researched).


The Ministry of Industry, Indonesia. 
No trace of the company on the database of Directory of Companies, and Exporters
http://www.dprin.go.id/ENG2005/Content2.asp?mode=21&view=frm


Domain name registration may be viewed on the below link. It appears
they have used the details of a real address.

Created: 2006-02-01
Expires: 2007-02-01

Registrant:
westjavatronic
Nursery Coattage Norwood Lane
Meopham, NA Da13 0ye
GB
http://www.whois.sc/westjavatronic.com


They have placed a description of their company on some trade
directories. This information doesn?t even match.

Profile:
Established in: 2003
Capital: 1,000,000.00 US
Annual Sales: 500,000 USD
No. of Employee: 15
http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture97/westjava/supplier.html

Registration Date  	  2006/01/24 (Year/Month/Date)
icon Buyer / Seller in EC21 	  Seller
icon Business Type 	  Distributor/Wholesaler
icon Year established 	  2005
icon Employees total 	  51 - 100
icon Annual revenue 	  USD 100,000 - 500,000
http://victor1606.en.ec21.com/company_info.html

Their ?About Us? page is a little confused about their name. I suspect
PT.Indojava Tech is their next fraud. Again a UK domain registrant.
  
?PT.Westjava Electronic innovative products put technology to follow
your communication through. By skillfully combining the latest
technology with bold designs, PT.Indojava Tech creates inventive
personal electronic device accessories that are both simple to use and
useful - enabling its customers to take full advantage of today's high
tech world.?
http://www.westjavatronic.com/about_us.htm

Domain name registration.
 
JavaindoTech
19 belstead avenue
ipswich, NA ip2 8np
GB
http://www.whois.sc/IndoJavaTech.com

In addition, their ?About Us? page carries text about starting in a
garage - this appears on multiple sites.  I have not looked at these
in any detail but they clearly suspicious and untrustworthy.
"Started to design communicating related"
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22Started+to+design+communicating+related%22&btnG=Search


Finally, the phone number has been used before with a different
company name and address.
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11292929/Electric_Blue_Nintendo_Ds.html


I hope this answers your question. If it does not, or the answer is
unclear, then please ask for clarification of this research before
rating the answer. I shall respond to the clarification request as
soon as I receive it.
Thank you
answerfinder
Comments  
Subject: Re: PT. Westjava Electronic is a scam or real company ???
From: probonopublico-ga on 20 Mar 2006 05:55 PST
 
Further to Answerfinder's excellent answer, the two UK addresses that
he has uncovered are decidedly odd.

Both are residential properties and the address provided in Neopham
does not show the Post Town (which is Gravesend). Also, note that
'Cottage' is shown as 'Coattage' and 'Ipswich' is shown in lower case
throughout.

The 'NA' component in each address is curious, as are the methods of
using lower case letters for the Post Codes.

Well done, Answerfinder, another scammer bites the dust!
Subject: Re: PT. Westjava Electronic is a scam or real company ???
From: mikomoro-ga on 20 Mar 2006 07:08 PST
 
I guess that 'NA' in both addresses indicates that the County is 'not
available'. This is totally bizarre. Surely, any person legitimately
registering a domain name would know the county of the address that is
being used!
Subject: Re: PT. Westjava Electronic is a scam or real company ???
From: 891572-ga on 06 Apr 2006 11:28 PDT
 
Hi asce,

Have you had any joy finding a supplier that is for real?
I am struggling:-(

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