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Subject: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music
Asked by: caladan-ga
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Posted: 24 Mar 2006 12:26 PST
Expires: 23 Apr 2006 13:26 PDT
Question ID: 711555
I'm pretty sure this is an 80's rock song, I recognize the tune but
all I have is the MIDI file from an old game.  I would like to know
the song title and artist.  Here it is converted to MP3:

http://66.28.224.204/mp3/MUS00013.mp3

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 24 Mar 2006 22:43 PST
Hello Caladan,
The is somewhat familiar to me... but probably because I'm such as
80's afficionado myself. Hmm, even in its 8-bit form, the song sounds
good! :)

You mentioned you got this version from a game... what game? It could be a lead.

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 24 Mar 2006 22:44 PST
Oops, I meant to write the "song" is somewhat familiar.

Clarification of Question by caladan-ga on 25 Mar 2006 16:16 PST
The midi file was pulled out a Doom 2 multiplayer add-on called
"Dwango".  There were special maps made for online play and this is
one of songs embedded in the "WAD" file.  The game and add-on is very
old now, more than 10 years.  The maps and songs were assembled by
someone that went by "Aikman", but I haven't been able to track them
down to contact them.

Request for Question Clarification by techtor-ga on 26 Mar 2006 07:08 PST
Hello again Caladan,
Hmm, doesn't turn out to be much of a lead, though I'll try to find
out what sounds similar to it. Probably the "Dwango" maker made the
midi of the song from his collection.

Clarification of Question by caladan-ga on 26 Mar 2006 17:22 PST
Hello Techtor,

I'm pretty sure the creator made the Doom levels himself, but the
music was pulled from other sources.  The Dwango add-on had a lot of
midi music in it, mostly easily recognizable Nine Inch Nails songs and
some others.  There were however a few 80's songs like this one and
although the tune is VERY familiar, I simply cannot place the artist. 
I've done some extensive Google trying to find the author (Aikman) or
any references to Dwango music.  There's been some hits, but nothing
like a playlist.

If it helps, the midi file was pulled out of the DWANGO5.WAD file from Level 15.

Clarification of Question by caladan-ga on 26 Mar 2006 17:52 PST
I did a little more digging into the DWANGO5.WAD file.  The music is
stored in MUS format and I had to use a converter to get it to MIDI
and then to MP3.  Inside the WAD file, I used XWE (eXtendable Wad
Editor) to find the song has an index of 284 and only has the name
"D_DDTBL2", which may or may not lend a clue to the real song.

Here's some files:

Original WAD: 
http://66.28.224.204/dwango/DWANGO5.WAD

Extracted MUS file:
http://66.28.224.204/dwango/MUS00013.MUS

MUS2MIDI conversion utility:
http://66.28.224.204/dwango/MUS2MIDI.EXE
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Subject: Re: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
From: googlenut-ga on 24 Mar 2006 17:22 PST
 
The song sounds a bit like "You Give Love A Bad Name" by Bon Jovi.

Googlenut
Subject: Re: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
From: caladan-ga on 24 Mar 2006 20:38 PST
 
The chorus part has some similarities but I'm pretty sure the song
wasn't that heavy.  I even think it was from a female performer and
can almost put words to it from memory, but they're always on the tip
of my tongue.
Subject: Re: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
From: bschonec-ga on 25 Mar 2006 11:34 PST
 
Sounds a bit like Roxxette to me.  Listen to your heart or another
pseudo-similar song by the group.
Subject: Re: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
From: caladan-ga on 25 Mar 2006 16:29 PST
 
I keep thinking it's a Belinda Carlisle song, but I've been through a
lot of her CD's.  It could be Roxette, but I been through her hits
too.  The midi is very close to the actual song, meaning that there
isn't much heavy guitar like Roxette.  It could be 80's or 90's, but I
know it was on the radio since that's all there was to listen to at
the time.  The first 10 seconds of the midi with the hi-hat and piano
is a unique signature.
Subject: Re: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
From: goonter-ga on 06 May 2006 14:10 PDT
 
I have been trying to figure out all the dwango5 songs for quite a
while, and this is one that I just recently found. It's Valerie's
Garden(Garten) - Nächstes Mal am Ende der Welt. There is a cover of it
on iTunes, and I found the original mp3 on a P2P program. Apparently
it's a german pop band. It took me a LONG time to find this one. Here
is a list of the other songs in the WAD that I have found:

Map 1: ?? hitfloor.mid
Map 2: NIN - Head Like a Hole
Map 3: NIN - Something I can never have
Map 4: Pet Shop Boys - Its a Sin
Map 5: NIN - Hurt
Map 6: NIN - March of the Pigs
Map 7: Heretic E1M9: The Graveyard
Map 8: NIN - Closer
Map 9: NIN - March of the Pigs
Map 10: Heretic E2M3: The River of Fire
Map 11: ?? Mempheria - Starfluxx? | from the game Gemstorm | Jean
Michel Jarre - Oxygene?
Map 12: NIN - Down in it
Map 13: NIN - last
Map 14: Valerie's Garden(Garten) - Nächstes Mal am Ende der Welt 
Map 15: Paul Young - Come Back And Stay
Map 16: NIN - A Warm Place
Map 17: NIN - Dead Souls
Map 18: 2 Unlimited - No limit
Map 19: NIN - Sanctified
Map 20: ?? Movie theme?
Map 21: NIN - Terrible Lie
Map 22: Heretic E1M5
Map 23: Doom E1M3
Map 24: Doom E1M5
Inter:  Billy Joel - Pressure

Here are links to the ones that I haven't figured out, if anyone wants
to take a listen and fill in the gaps. :-)
http://www.wowpvp.net/vids/map01.mid
http://www.wowpvp.net/vids/map11.mid
http://www.wowpvp.net/vids/map20.mid

Map 20 feels very familiar...
Subject: Re: Need help with song ID: 80's rock?
From: caladan-ga on 03 Oct 2006 21:50 PDT
 
Damn goonter, I would've never found that song!  Can't thank you
enough.  I swear I've heard it before but don't remember it being in
German.  I wonder if it's a German remake of an original 80's song...
Who knows.

According to the ZDaemon.org site forums, #1 is just called Hit the
Floor, a custom midi not based off an actual song.  I've listened to
the other ones but nothing sounds familiar.

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