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History of laundry
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: archae0pteryx-ga List Price: $2.08 |
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25 Mar 2006 12:44 PST
Expires: 24 Apr 2006 13:44 PDT Question ID: 711857 |
This question seeks evidence to support or refute a scientific theory. I won?t disclose what the theory is, but here are my relevant questions: 1. Did socks disappear in the laundry prior to the advent of fitted sheets? 2. What is the comparative incidence of sockal disappearance in households with and without fitted sheets? There is some evidence to support the notion that the phenomenon long predates modern convenience-based adaptations in household linens. An obscure and only partially decoded reference in Plato's personal journal has been interpreted as a reference to a point of contention between Socrates and Xanthippe, to wit: that she was responsible for the loss from the clothesline of one of his favorite pair, a green plaid (literally, "hue of verdure as with crosswise furrows drawn"), long before the infamous bucket-dumping incident. (For recent scholarship on this subject, see http://www.snopes.com.) Naturally, I am interested only in supportable and verifiable data. Thank you, Archae0pteryx |
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Re: History of laundry
From: myoarin-ga on 25 Mar 2006 14:16 PST |
Dear Tryx, I have this from my Scandinavian parents, so it cannot be referenced to Greek sources, but it may be just as old - but still also an explanation for that very typical and timeless marriage dispute. Single, individual socks began to "go lost" when husbands discovered that their wives cast all sorts of aspersions at (on?) them when they - the wives - discovered a hole in the toe of one sock, to wit: "You should cut your toenails!" or "You forgot to wear them on the other foot," (to spread the wear to both corners of the toes of the socks, or simply: "You should have changed your socks sooner," (as if spreading the wear to other pairs would reduce the overall problem). In old Norse, this doesn't sound so aggressive, but in ancient Greek - delivered by the sharp-tongued Xanthippe - it could drive arrows in the heart of a loving husband, but not those of Cupid. Wily Plato, anticipating from previous attacks on the subject, and being all too aware of the hole - and that the attack would follow her washing, and darning with madder-dyed yarn to emphasize her effort - also to let Plato's hangers-on in the Agora know that he was really just a slovenly old tosslehead - had his favorite youth slip into the garden and steal the so well marked sock. Actually, those green Argyle socks were not at all his favorite pair, but Xanthippe had knitted them for his fifthieth birthday, and he - loving husband - had praised them unduly and worn them as often as possible in the hope that they would soon go the way of all earthly things. Plato had almost succeeded, but Xanthippe's tirade after the incident forced him to continue to wear the one sock with whichever one he happened to pull from the drawer. This is the origin of the story about absent-minded professors who turn up to lecture with mismatched socks. Only the fewest of them know that they are upholding a tradition of such long standing. John Finley, Eliot Professor of Greek Literature, could have confirmed this, but but very unfortunately he is no long with us. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/05.25/finley.html Best regards, Myo |
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Re: History of laundry
From: pinkfreud-ga on 25 Mar 2006 15:23 PST |
Tryx, It is my theory that socks which disappear from dryers in our universe have traveled through an interdimensional rift which leads to dryers in some other universe. Somewhere, at this very moment, some slimy bug-eyed entity is probably grumbling to its mate, "Where the frabble do all these strange little knitted artifacts come from, and why do they keep showing up in our tentacle-garment-drying appliance?" ~Pink |
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Re: History of laundry
From: ansel001-ga on 25 Mar 2006 18:01 PST |
Tryx, Fitted sheets do indeed have a way of gobbling things up, but I look to a different source for most of the sockal disappearances. I think we have to blame Benjamin Franklin. When he invented electricity he never should have invented the static variety. When you pull clothing out of the dryer, static electricity kidnaps unwary socks and secretly binds them to shirts and pants. Some of these will escape your detection and you will discover you are missing socks. Sometimes you will think to look in the closet and discover them hanging on your shirts and pants. But if you miss one of them, a few days later the static electricty will release the sock and it will fall to the floor of the closet, never to be found again. Ansel |
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Re: History of laundry
From: frde-ga on 27 Mar 2006 05:04 PST |
Socks and sheets should be treated with rules more rigorous than Apartheid For a technical discussion see Glass and Plinkelwasser's dissertion on crotch rot. Successful avoidance of what is in the UK called 'Public School Rot', also known as 'Dhobi Itch', generally results in a diminution of the quantity of unmatched socks. The Ossowandski technique of comparison of similar, but not identical batches, reduces the percieved 'orphan factor' to two per wash. Basically, wash socks separately, buy them in bulk and keep the blighters well away from anything - especially underwear, shirts and sheets. |
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Re: History of laundry
From: myoarin-ga on 28 Mar 2006 04:05 PST |
I think Frde-ga's above reference is from a translation with a misspelling of the name of the famous Prof. Dr. Dr. P. P. Pinkelwasser, whose area of study has been noted as an amusing example of "nomen est omen". |
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Re: History of laundry
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 29 Mar 2006 21:15 PST |
Thank you all. I will go a little further and mention that the interpretation of Plato's oblique reference to Soc's sox has (as I'm sure Prof. Finley would have been well aware) been vigorously debated between scholars at Oxford and Cambridge, with one vocal fringe minority asserting that Edward de Vere was actually the author of the so-called ?verdure? story. However, others claim that that notion is a hoax invented by some students of Wittgenstein. A related though somewhat less rancorous debate on sockal phenomena has raged for decades between certain members of the faculties of Harvard and Yale, but without producing a supportable theory that could be systematically explored. That honor belongs to MIT, which has published several scholarly papers asserting something fairly close to PinkFreud's theory; with, however, the significant difference that the preponderance of the evidence is tending toward the idea that there really is no missing sock; rather, the presumably orphaned sock is a solitary *arrival* in the dryer through interdimensional means and that we simply assume one was lost or abducted because we have an expectation of seeing two when we see one. Here is an instance where we are misled by a cultural assumption, and this is why the distinctive pair of Socrates' has significance. Of course, in that instance, we may be seeing effects of entirely separate causes, such as Myo suggests. My own modest contribution to the thinking on this subject is to suggest that the phenomenon is by no means limited to socks. It affects other underthings, principally men's (shorts, undershirts, etc.), and certain other items, usually of cotton, but is seldom detected because no one actually knows how many such articles are in a given laundry. It is only because the socks typically come in pairs that we think we have experienced a loss when an even number goes in and an odd number comes out. Consider for a moment whether you would really notice the addition or subtraction of one dishtowel, for instance, or an extra washcloth in the linen closet, and you will see that this explanation is distinctly possible. Ansel, I enjoyed your contribution, and I am sure that a lot of things are Ben Franklin's fault, but I think we have ample evidence to indicate that this is not a burden exclusive to the American people nor nonexistent prior to the middle of the 18th century. Frde, your solution would solve the problem, certainly; but it would not explain it. This is a puzzle for the intellect and not simply a matter of practical housekeeping. Tryx |
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Re: History of laundry
From: frde-ga on 30 Mar 2006 00:16 PST |
@Archeo Nice point that, the phenomenen may be widespread but only observable for 'pairs'. However I was only partly joking, the rest was deadly serious. Socks should always be kept well away from all other garments. |
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Re: History of laundry
From: myoarin-ga on 30 Mar 2006 04:12 PST |
Segregating socks? That would be politically incorrect, either by depriving them of social contact with the greater community of dirty and washing clothing, or by treating them as higher members of the community - regardless of how they feel about the matter. The socks are not responsible for this problem and should not be ostricized for its occurrance. Maybe the fitted sheets should be, as they seem to be the culprits. They can also be replaced by harmless plain sheets. Indeed, they are the newcomers to the community, foreign intruders. Of course, any regulations to eliminate them must allow them to be phased out so that those which are now part of the community - despite contention about their social intergration - can live out their useful lives in peace. |
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Re: History of laundry
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 30 Mar 2006 14:27 PST |
I see some profound sentiments here, some searching thought, and some strong conviction. Where might this lead? Why, entire philosophical systems and maybe even religions have been founded on less. Tryx |
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