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Christianity
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion Asked by: mongolia-ga List Price: $7.77 |
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25 Mar 2006 14:57 PST
Expires: 24 Apr 2006 15:57 PDT Question ID: 711892 |
During the period of the Soviet occupation of Afganistan, if a muslim living in Afganustan decided to convert to Christianity what would the outcome have been: - nothing - fine - imprisionment - execution Cheers Mongolia_ |
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Re: Christianity
From: geof-ga on 25 Mar 2006 15:53 PST |
The history of Afghanistan is excruciatingly complex, but I don't think that there was ever any Soviet occupation as such, with the USSR governing the country. However, the USSR intervened in support of an Afghan government that was trying to introduce reforms, and was regarded as non-Islamist, So one might suppose that at the time of the Soviet intervention, the official penalty for a convert to Christianity would been less harsh that under the present regime, where the official legal system is based on Islamic (Sharia) law. On the other hand, central governments in Afghanistan have never had much influence over what goes on in outlying regions of the country; and one would not have given much for the chances of any Muslim in such an area who announced his conversion to Christianity. |
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Re: Christianity
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 25 Mar 2006 18:35 PST |
I heard on NRP just today, while driving around, about a man who is currently on trial for his life in Afghanistan for having converted to Christianity 16 years ago when he was part of a medical team. The Pope has written a letter to Afghanistan's head of state to plead for clemency for the man on humanitarian grounds; under their current laws, his action of 16 years ago is a capital offense. Archae0pteryx (not a researcher) |
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Re: Christianity
From: pafalafa-ga on 25 Mar 2006 19:09 PST |
I don't think the outcome would very likely have been Cheers, though all the other items on your list seem like possibilities. |
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Re: Christianity
From: archae0pteryx-ga on 25 Mar 2006 20:40 PST |
Sorry, I meant NPR. |
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Re: Christianity
From: frde-ga on 26 Mar 2006 01:46 PST |
The USSR realized that 'Moslemification' was a potential problem back in the late 1970s. Stupidly the West financed and armed the 'freedom fighters' Sensibly the USSR retired back into its cerebellum (Russia) and retained resources that will make it extremely wealthy in the near future. (The ByloRussian election was probably not fraudulent, and the Ukraine will vote for self interest) After that rant, realistically, as Geof-ga pointed out, the USSR did not 'occupy' Afghanistan, they attempted to help out a border country that was in danger of becoming unstable. Not for altruistic reasons - they just knew that the rot would spread. The 'assisting USSR' and the local Government (Cities only) probably regarded anyone who proclaimed themselves 'Christian' as certifiable, but harmless nutters. Mostly, I reckon that this little controversy is a public relations scam dreamt up by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (them who run the BBC World Service, who have been bruiting the tale), but they do have a point. My view is that anyone who espouses a religion is a fool - if it is a pacifist religion then they are harmless fools - if not, be they militant Christians, Moslems, Hindus or Buddhists, then they need to be classified as 'non social beings' and deprived of any form of social protection. I don't care if people are daft, but if they start talking about killing other people then they deserve rapid perfusion - which ... kind of puts me in a difficult position :-} . On the other hand, there is the argument of self defense - and that is what we are being reminded of. However, there is the alternative British approach, let people show themselves as idiots - better an overground idiot, than an underground recruiter. |
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Re: Christianity
From: myoarin-ga on 26 Mar 2006 04:46 PST |
This site is probably not unbiased, but it gives information that is probably correct. http://www.backtojerusalem.com/News%20from%20the%20Front%20Lines/Afghanistan.htm Another site gave the population of Christians and Bahai as 1%. It is extremely unlikely that a Muslim living in a predominantly Muslim country would convert to Christianity. Abdul Rahman and others all seemed to have converted while in exil, surprisingly many while in Pakistan, it seems, although it is also a Muslim country. Here is a CCN report: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/21/afghan.christian/ President Karsai, it is report now, has said that Rahman will not be executed, presumably because he won't sign the sentence, though it is interesting to speculate if his statement will influence the court's decision. It could find that Rahman was not in full command of his senses or that he converted under duress. |
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Re: Christianity
From: mongolia-ga on 30 Mar 2006 17:53 PST |
Many thanks for all the comments. It would appear to me (and some may wish to disagree :-)) that in light of the Rahman case, Afghanistan was a much more liberated society during the Soviet intervention than it is now under so called western "freedom". Mongolia PS PAFALAFA-GA Seems like my sign off has caused problems before See quesation 198434 !! :-) |
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Re: Christianity
From: myoarin-ga on 31 Mar 2006 02:09 PST |
Well, "more liberated society": Prior to the Russians coming into Afghanistan, the country was much more liberal in religious matters than it has been since. The burka was in Kabul the exception on the streets. The Islamic activism was a response to the Russians, who were, of course, noted for supressing Islam in the Central Asian satellites to the north. Recalling the minimal Christian population and the fact that a church was only built fairly recently, I expect that there was no missionary activity and so few Christians that there would have been no impulse to convert, as there certainly is not now. Now in Mongolia ... :-) Cheers, Myoarin |
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