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Best BA or BS to get?
Category: Business and Money > Employment Asked by: shopgirl209allen-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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29 Mar 2006 12:11 PST
Expires: 28 Apr 2006 13:11 PDT Question ID: 713256 |
I hav a friend with an IQ of 153 and a broad-spectrum of interests. (No it is NOT me... I could only wish I had that much brain power). We have just discovered a way for her to go to school. (before it was impossible...long story). Anyway here is what I want. Good advice based on some decent research about the top 4 or 5 BS or BA degrees to shoot for. Include for consideration both employement opportunities and expected salary. Please note, she has a (ridiculous) conviction for a Class C Felony on her record, so some jobs (like law enforcement) might not be in the running. Just for reference we live where attendance to any Portland, Oregon University is most convienient. Not a deal breaker, but a consideration. Thanks for your effort and time.....Pam :-) |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: politicalguru-ga on 29 Mar 2006 12:51 PST |
Wrong, wrong, wrong again. Sorry for the strong language. I am working as a students' advisor and I give lots of help here on GA regarding education and employment. What is "best" for one individual might not be "best" for the next person and there is no universal best. Let's say that the top job of the future is to be a space-pilot. But your friend gets car-sick. So how does this information help her? It takes different type of people to be scientists, engineers, teachers or lawyer - different type of thinking. If one chooses their major only based on "what is going well in the market", one might end up studying something that is not interesting for them; and worse - ending up working in this job. Since they are less passionate than people who really like it, they will probably not get too far ahead. Sometimes it is better to choose a path that is not so beaten, but reflects what you really have in you. Most well respected careers, except perhaps some jobs in engineering, require graduate education. And the "(ridiculous) conviction for a Class C Felony" does not just hinder her prospects in law enforcement and the like. Many big law firms will not take a partner with conviction; most private schools will not take a teacher with a conviction; and most clinics will not take a physician or a psychologist with a conviction - all of these places have enough cadidates without it. |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 29 Mar 2006 13:04 PST |
Regardless of your friend's IQ, choosing an educational field and a career is not something that should be done solely by evaluating "employment opportunities and expected salary." A close friend of mine is a longtime member of Mensa. He has a remarkable mind, and if intellectual ability were the only factor that determined job aptitude and career satisfaction, my friend could have his pick of any job in the world. When he decided to return to college and get a bachelor's degree, he looked at the economic prospects for several different occupations and decided that he should be an engineer. So he enrolled in engineering school, where he was able to get top grades. But he hated it. He could not imagine doing this kind of thing for the rest of his life. Engineering just wasn't suited to his temperament, and he found no joy whatsoever in it. My friend finally jettisoned the engineering courses and found another field in which he excelled, but which he found to be interesting and stimulating. Although he may not be making as much money as some engineers do, he has a career that he loves. |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: jack_of_few_trades-ga on 29 Mar 2006 13:58 PST |
Phew, these researchers are harsh today... but it's good to see they mean well :) And they do make very good points. However, I think your questions is more for ideas and possible guidance rather than for a cut and dry "this is what she will major in because it's worth the most". Anyways, here were the top recruited majors for 2004-2005: "When asked which new college grads they were likely to hire, the greatest number of employers said they were interested in hiring grads who majored in: accounting, electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, business administration and economics/finance. Rounding out the top 10 list were students who majored in: computer science, computer engineering, marketing or marketing management, chemical engineering, and information sciences and systems." Do keep in mind also that in 4 years (when she graduates), these majors could have changed considerably. I remember when I graduated in 2000 (just about the same time as the job market crash... oh the joys; no one would hired me with an economics degree. Every economics job required a masters. But here we are 6 years later and it looks like an economics degree will go a long ways. |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: jack_of_few_trades-ga on 29 Mar 2006 13:59 PST |
Oh, here is the link for the quote: http://www.a-aos.org/top_10_degrees_in_demand_for_2004_2005.htm |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: tr1234-ga on 29 Mar 2006 14:53 PST |
(1) Perhaps of interest, the U.S. Department of Labor lists fast-growing occupations. If one is inclined to chose a course of study based on future employment prospects, preparing one's education based on this list might be useful: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/ooh.t01.htm (2) If one is inclined to chose one's career based on one's own interests and aptitudes, there's no shortage of self-tests/exams/exercises in introspection that might worth consulting. Many of these are described in the classic book for job-hunters "What Color is Your Parachute?" and its associated website http://www.jobhuntersbible.com/ |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: markd4864-ga on 29 Mar 2006 21:03 PST |
With respect to your friends "class C felony" - A felony will not only preclude your friend from law enforcement, law, and teaching, but it will more than likely prevent your friend from obtaining employment with any employer that recruits on campus. While backround checks are not traditional as it relates to employment gained through personal networks, it is clearly the norm for on campus interviewing. I would explore possible legal remedies (e.g. expungement, removal, etc.) before committing time and financial resources into pursuing an undergraduate degree. Access to companies and recruiters on campus is without question, a significant resource and in some cases the only means thru which students gain meaningful employment. |
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Re: Best BA or BS to get?
From: frde-ga on 30 Mar 2006 01:30 PST |
I agree with the others - choosing a career for money is not a good idea Here in the UK we have something called 'The Rehabillitation of Offenders Act' After a period of time the convictions become 'expunged' I was told by experts in the insurance industry that it is actually an offence to /enquire/ whether a person has a conviction - for example insurance companies cannot ask whether you have a driving conviction over IIRC five years old (definitely 10 years). It would be a good idea to check this out, it is likely that US or States laws have something similar. |
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