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Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
Category: Sports and Recreation Asked by: marcomguy-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
31 Mar 2006 10:12 PST
Expires: 30 Apr 2006 11:12 PDT Question ID: 714038 |
Just moved to Tucson and I live in a semi-remote area with access to the open desert. I'm thinking about getting a quad but can't decide on a 2WD or race quad versus a 4WD quad. Ideally, I want to use it to explore the desert area around my house up here and thought that a 4x4 would keep me out of trouble, more access in the really sandy, loose dirt areas and so on. From a base price standpoint, 4x4 look to be far more expensive dollar-wise than the 2wd models and since I'm a beginner here, I don't want to invest a ton of money initially, only to find that I could have done okay with a 2wd. Any suggestions? |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: markvmd-ga on 31 Mar 2006 19:58 PST |
Couldn't you just take up hiking and carry a bedroll rather than foul up the atmosphere with pollution and noise? |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 02 Apr 2006 13:57 PDT |
Doesn't really answer his question, does it? Interestingly, you are polluting the atmosphere with the fuels used to make the electricity to run your PC, from which you posted your answer. Maybe you should be spending the time you are wasting on your power hungry computer doing something worthwhile? |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: markvmd-ga on 02 Apr 2006 16:53 PDT |
Thanks, Murunbuchstansinger. Your comment doesn't address the topic at all (while mine at least does so obliquely) and thus is an even greater waste of space. I will withhold comment as to how this reflects on its author. While I do not usually post my credentials (except my professional ones), I would like to say that I have a relatively small ecological footprint. My sole vehicle is ultra low emissions (ULEV), my cooling system is high efficiency Puron, I have a rainwater holding system for irrigation and runoff control, I walk to mass transit (and spend more on it than it would cost to drive, which peeves me a bit), I have a sailboat rather than a stinkpot, solar panels power several charging systems around the office, and I am a vegetarian most of the time (my God, how can anyone give up steak entirely?). These are just a few of the things-- there are a number of others-- I do to minimize my ecological damage. Normal people who live in remote areas should want to keep them quiet, pristine, and uncrowded. Numbskulls zooming across these areas in pollution-belching buggies for "enjoyment" could get their jollies at a go-kart track in downtown Boston just as easily as mucking up the desert. I suspect if Marcomguy developed an appreciation for his area afoot first, he would be vehemently opposed to quads ruining his space. Marcomguy, look at what you are asking-- "Should I get a quad that goes really fast, or get one that isn't quite as fast but can drive over anything I want to?" I'd get the insanely fast death machine as the desert is unlikely to offer many areas that you couldn't drive around rather than over, and speeding is always great fun. Better, Murunbuchstansinger? I hope a herd of quad-runners moves in next door to you and goes zooming around every morning, jetskiing in the afternoon, and juggles chainsaws into the night. Dammit, you see what you've done? You're turning me into my grandfather. Kill me now. |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 12 Apr 2006 14:04 PDT |
I live in a rural area and a field behind our farm is often used by idiots on motorbikes. This is annoying. I live in a rural area and have to damage the environment just by going shopping. Food mileage and carbon footprint, carbon cost of everything in your house. What is the carbon cost of your little energy efficient car? How often does it have to be replaced? Does it depreciate faster than an equivalent non "energy efficient" vehicle. Would you be better spending the extra the car cost you on technology in the 3rd world, where CO2 pollution is much worse. Maybe you are different, but I find most environmentalists to be naive and lacking in understanding of the bigger picture. |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: markvmd-ga on 12 Apr 2006 18:04 PDT |
The car is a Civic with the CVT. It is NOT a hybrid and I am familiar with the limitations and hype associated with those. Murunbuchstansinger, I realize just how limited one person is in trying to effect global change. My travels and experiences have shown me just how bad the situation is and expose our leader for the lying scum he is. I figure my efforts compensate for one minute of one day of his horrid policies and practices. Now I just need 4,204,800 more folks and we'll be covered through election day 2008. I am truly sorry you have chucklehead zoomies ripping up what is essentially your back yard. If our offspring were given an appreciation of silence, an understanding of the solace of solitude, a taste of the joy of peace and quiet, maybe they wouldn't need to fill their heads with buzzing and their nostrils with fumes (see the use of double entendre there that encompasses our discussion AND drug abuse? I almost missed it myself). Sorry about the quad-runner/jetski/chainsaw swipe earlier. It's fitting punishment for some, but I don't think you deserve it. A bedroll and a pack are so much more fun. I'm just annoyed at how much room in my pack is consumed with water purification nowadays. |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: murunbuchstansinger-ga on 15 Apr 2006 12:26 PDT |
Thanks for the reply. I agree with you, but have to admit to being a bit grumpy about the pseudo environmentalists that run around bleating about 4x4s - many of which have a lower carbon cost than an MPV - then order grapes from 5,000 miles away, shoes made in China and leave their telivisions on standby. I'm getting grumpier as I get older! |
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Re: Should I get a 4WD or 2WD Quad?
From: eviljeff-ga on 16 Apr 2006 14:52 PDT |
What you are looking at is a matter of needs verses costs. The 4wd models can go more places, but have a much higher cost involved with thier purchase. The 2wd models will go most all places, and have a lower cost of ownership (lower maintainance, generally better milage) and lower initial purchase price. Since you are in Arizona you will generally not have to deal with teh main problems that 4wd is meant to overcome, namely snow and mud, but you will have to deal with loose sand. Loose sand can often be defeated with lower tire pressure, or wider tires as this will give you a wider foot print on the sand, and a lower pressure upon the surface. Look around at the areas that you will be riding in however and ask yourself how often are you going to run into enough loose sand that it becomes an issue, and could you simply just go around it? If you look you will most likely discover that 98% of the time you will not need a 4wd and the 2wd will be cheaper and more efficient for your purposes. I live in Northern Minnesota and drive a 2wd throughout the winters. I did have a 4wd for a few years but when I paid attention to my driving habits I discovered that I was only actually used the 4wd in my Jeep about 2 hours over a period of 2 years (Even going up hills in blizzards didn't require 4wd, only goig places that I shouldn't have gone in the first place). Since then I have decided to go back to 2wd as it simply makes more economic and enviromental sence. In the words of my father, 4wd just gives you the oportunity to get stuck in even more impossible and remote places. |
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