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Subject: escrow services
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: tonywong001-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 06 Apr 2006 14:26 PDT
Expires: 06 May 2006 14:26 PDT
Question ID: 716250
1. I need to know whether the escrow service www.3rdpart.net is
legitimate. I also want to know the business address and phone number
of www.3rdpart.net
2. What are my recourses if the business is not legitimate.
Answer  
Subject: Re: escrow services
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 06 Apr 2006 15:33 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear tonywong001,

Evidence suggest that this escrow service is a scam.

- On their website, they claim: "3rd Partner , located in Belgium, is
audited regularly by the following entity: Belgium Department of
Corporations, license #452-6833". However, there is no such department
in Belgium at all.

- Companies in Belgium are registered with the Banque-Carrefour des
Entreprises (BCE) et Registre du commerce. They do, however, not issue
7-digit numbers, but 10-digit numbers. The online database of the BCE
does not list any company of the name 3rd Partner or the like.

- The domain of their website, 3rdpart.net, was not registered by a
Belgian company but, allegedly, by an individual living in
Morrisville, Pennsylvania. Certainly a European company would not
choose this unnecessarily complicated way to register their domain;
there are domain registration services in Belgium, too. However, it is
common behavior of online fraudsters to register their domains using
fake contact information to avoid being traced by their victims.

- Also, the domain was registered only very recently, on 4 March 2006,
which is more than suspicious. And it will expire already on 4 March
2007, after only one year. This is not the behaviour of a reputable
company, but it's typical of online scams: The fraudsters register
"disposable" domains that are simply abandoned once they are not of
use any longer.

- It is absolutely unlikely that a Belgian company would not offer a
Dutch and a French version of their website, the languages spoken in
Belgium. There are no links to versions of the website in other
languages either. An actual European company would not do this.

- On their website, lots of content has simply been copied and stolen
from the website of an actual escrow service, Escrow.com in California
(for example, they stole almost everything from this page:
https://www.escrow.com/resources/escrow_license.asp)

Clearly, 3rd Partner is a fraud, as described here:
http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspx#item-8

You should not do any business with them. In case you have already
been scammed by them, there is not much you can do for the criminals
behind this fraud are virtually anonymous and almost impossible to
track down.

In case you are located in the United States, you should file a
complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center:
http://www.ic3.gov/

Hope this helps!
Regards,
Scriptor



Sources:

Banque-Carrefour des Entreprises (BCE) et Registre du commerce
http://kbo-bce-ps.mineco.fgov.be/ps/kbo_ps/kbo_search.jsp?lang=fr&dest=ST

Allwhois Domain Database
http://www.allwhois.com/cgi-bin/allwhois.cgi

Escrow.com
https://www.escrow.com/
tonywong001-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
This research is absolutely amazing. Every comment is supported by
fact, and the author is super-knowledgable about everything.

Comments  
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: scamalert419-ga on 13 Apr 2006 18:02 PDT
 
you may also like to know of this fake escrow website which also uses
the same fake license details

http://www.worldwide-express.net IP 66.98.210.16 on Everyones Internet 

QUOTE FROM ITS SITE 
http://www.worldwide-express.net/AboutUs.asp
"Belgium Department of Corporations
license #452-6833"

I am a member of 2 anti-scam websites that take down these fake sites
before they  hopefully scam innocent people and I will post a report
to the hosters of 3rdpart.net to get it shut down
scamalert419
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: scamalert419-ga on 13 Apr 2006 18:08 PDT
 
I will also take down http://www.worldwide-express.net
and just so you know I meant "before hopefully they DON'T scam
innocent people" from my last response.
cheers
scamalert419
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: tonywong001-ga on 14 Apr 2006 12:32 PDT
 
Thanks so much for the detail. It's very important to me. So
scamalert419, will you be willing to further assist me to track down
those scammers who make all these sites?
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: scamalert419-ga on 19 Apr 2006 14:20 PDT
 
tony it will be very difficult to actually track the people down who
are responsible as they will have used presumably fake details in this
case or other victims real details. the person who registered the
website (which is incidentally now unavailable) abompensa@aol.com will
just be any name and from a free mail provider. you could try the
hosts of the fake site for any further information  www.xo.com 
abuse@xo.com
you may also like to visit this site http://www.fraudaid.com/ and or
this site http://www.scamvictimsunited.com/ for further help.
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: scamalert419-ga on 22 Apr 2006 19:32 PDT
 
Tony you may now wish to know that I have 'killed' both 3rdpart.net
and worldwide-express.net
cheers
scamalert419
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: tonywong001-ga on 18 May 2006 21:53 PDT
 
cool scamalert419-ga, keep up the good work, by the way, I am filing a
law suit against XO and I just want to know if you or anyone you know
could forward me the actual complaint sent to XO.

My lawyer tells me that it is absolutely crucial for me to collect all
complaints filed against XO Communications on faked escow sites of
3rdpart.net variety. Up to my knowledge all the following sites looks
identical and are all hosted on XO:

next-market.net
vergosol.com (complaint sent before April 14, still active)
chesteram.com
3rdpart.net
3rdpart.com
lectad.com
compacttra.com
CELSTAD.COM
Mediatecha.com
Mellont.com
Quintecha.net
bancelo.com
expert-tra.com
Gladursol.com

Please sent all detailed complaints you filed against XO
Communications regarding the above sites, if any, or any site similar
to them. Go check http://forum.escrow-fraud.com and check your private
message.
This nonsense of XO is outrageous and need to be put to stop.

Keep in touch and thank you in advance.
Subject: Re: escrow services
From: beckyc-ga on 15 Aug 2006 12:52 PDT
 
Hi.  I need to find out if Fast-Ca-Trading licence no 4526833 is a
legitimate company.  I cant seem to find any information on this.

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