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Subject:
escow service
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: tonywong001-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
08 Apr 2006 09:58 PDT
Expires: 08 May 2006 09:58 PDT Question ID: 716816 |
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Re: escow service
From: maddave-ga on 08 Apr 2006 15:48 PDT |
Tony, just to confirm, do you want to track them down to a physical address? |
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Re: escow service
From: mjeshtri-ga on 09 Apr 2006 05:23 PDT |
i can help ya maybe... :) |
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Re: escow service
From: tonywong001-ga on 09 Apr 2006 09:39 PDT |
Yes. I want to track them down to a physical address, the real address. Yes, those scammers have scammed hundreds of people, and need to be stopped. If you can help, you will be doing the society a great favor, and if you indeed help to apprehend those people, you name will be remember in history forever. |
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Re: escow service
From: tonywong001-ga on 09 Apr 2006 20:21 PDT |
Hi mjeshtri-ga or maddava-ga, I am still waiting for your reply. I know it's not easy to trick the scammers, that's why I need some expert opinion. I will even pay you a certain cut of the money that I can recover, if your tip ultimately leads to recovery of my money. |
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Re: escow service
From: frde-ga on 11 Apr 2006 05:11 PDT |
I see you have done the basic research - good. http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=www.3rdpart.net The first thing you need to do is to set up an absolutely untraceable Email address. Many ISPs will allow you to set up multiple Email accounts, they look much more authentic than something at Yahoo. You could use Gmail, but ideally you want to look very real. Getting a new PAYG SIM for an old mobile 'phone is also a good idea. I recommend Pegasus as it allows you to control multiple Email identities, although setting it up is ... obscure to say the least. Ensure you are on a roving IP, and make it get a new address before sending stuff. Send Emails to yourself and examine the (hidden) headers. You would be wise to go to : www.419eater.com and look at the Forum, don't post until you have thoroughly read about ASEMs (which is a form of 'sucker' bait) - in fact you should learn quite enough without posting - just checked, you now need to register to get in there. - mostly they deal with Nigerian scams - but the same principles apply - don't be mistaken, the humour is just a lure to get people involved. The trick is to look like a sucker, and rather a stupid one, but wealthy enough to get the scammers salivating. At a certain point they will get careless. The trouble is that your scammers sound 'Russian' to me, probably ex-USSR, like Moldovia - so it is unlikely that you'll get your cash back. - highly unlikely. You could screw with their minds, and get them to show up links in the USA |
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Re: escow service
From: tonywong001-ga on 11 Apr 2006 21:17 PDT |
Hi frde-ga, You are my savior. You know the stuff so well that's amazing. Yes, the scammers asked me to ship the item to an address in Moldovia, You knew about it just by my mentioning of the email address. That's amazing. I am sure they have U.S. connections. 100% sure. I believe all their stolen credit cards used to setup the faked escow sites are American Visa cards. Again, you are correct. By the way, can you tell me more about roving IP and how do I set it up properly? I believe that it's a service offered by your ISP if they indeed have that technology. Am I correct, please correct me? |
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Re: escow service
From: frde-ga on 12 Apr 2006 00:18 PDT |
@Tony Good to see you're getting a handle on scamming. Even if you don't get your money back, you'll learn enough to not get taken in again, and even better you'll warn other people. With a Dial up or DSL connection to your ISP, you are allocated a unique IP number (address) by your ISP. They have a mass of them and simply deal them out as needed. Mostly they give you a new/different number each time you connect, but some ISPs provide fixed numbers. If you go to http://www.dnsstuff.com/ you will see your IP in the top right hand corner. If you are on dialup or DSL then unplug the connection and then plug it in again. Probably that number will change. If you are logging in from a company, then it is possible that your company has a bank of fixed IPs - in which case just by looking at your Email headers someone could possibly get enough information to pinpoint you to just one building. You can be darn sure that those scammers have some US connections, some will be patsies cashing dodgy cheques and wiring the money off into the wild, others will be servicing physical mail boxes which they will just use a few times and then abandon. Generally it looks as if people involved in one type of scam are also involved in other types. It is quite easy to prove, an 'accidentally sent Email' saying that you've cleared the cheque and wired the money will elicit a response from someone running a fake bank or an Escrow scam .... You'll find this rather interesting, but make sure you cover your tracks. Good Luck ! |
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Re: escow service
From: scamalert419-ga on 13 Apr 2006 18:53 PDT |
Hi Tony, I replied to another post of yours about this fake site and I can and will get this fake site shut down before it does anymore damage to anybody. it is hosted by XO Communications and I have notified them already and will send them a more detailed report on this fake escrow website tommorrow. you can phone xo.com to complain about this abuse of their service 1.866.285.6208 if you prefer. as frde says the harsh reality of it is that its highly unlikely to get any money back from these people. not only do they use fake email addresses to spam you with, the registrants of the websites are always fake too or they use real victims credit card details and address details to register the fake sites, with a 'throw-away-free' email address. if you sent them any credit card details best to get those cards cancelled. you may be also insured by your credit card company against fraud so that may be some way to get some money back if its the case. I would also report it to your local police station too. depends on where you are, not sure what they will do to be honest, but at least you have something to go back to should your details be used by the scammers in the future. If you plan to 'play' with them or 'bait' them then definitely head over to 419eater.com and learn how to play with them. read the stickies and get a mentor for baiting. and remember as frde says never, ever give out your personal information to the scammers. I am intrigued to know how you know that "I (you) believe all their stolen credit cards used to setup the faked escow sites are American Visa cards." |
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Re: escow service
From: cynthia-ga on 13 Apr 2006 19:09 PDT |
I would like to add that the "US Participant" may be just a "Regular Joe," an unwitting participant drawn in by the lure of a "Work-At-Home" scam. See this: http://www.fraudaid.com/Scamspeak/Nigerian/check_processing_scam.htm#elements The scam is the same regardless of this describing a Nigerian Sacm. I have a very good friend that tried this, she received a check for $80,000.00 in the mail before she became suspicious. She was supposed to deposit it in her bank, and forward all but 10% of it to her "Contact." |
Subject:
Re: escow service
From: tonywong001-ga on 14 Apr 2006 12:41 PDT |
thanks for all of your information. They are very helpful. By the way, do any of you know how can I get a mentor for baiting and do sucker emails? By the way, have you seen the newest posting on http://forum.escrow-fraud.com/viewtopic.php?t=264, by escowscamvictim? Do any of you want to help? |
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