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What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
Category: Science > Chemistry Asked by: juniorbiano-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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10 Apr 2006 01:33 PDT
Expires: 22 Apr 2006 03:36 PDT Question ID: 717344 |
Hi, first of all, let me stress that this answer is needed for a novel I am writing and will not be put to practical use ! :-) The protagonist needs to dissolve his victim as soon as possible (bones can be left intact, but the flesh must be removed) before the cops locate the body. The plot dictates that this should be done within a week if at all possible. I was toying with lime and HCL, but then remembered that one will neutralize the other! Can you please help? Many thanks! |
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Re: What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
From: probonopublico-ga on 10 Apr 2006 05:35 PDT |
I've always used Coca Cola. It's also great for removing rust. |
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Re: What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
From: kemlo-ga on 10 Apr 2006 10:56 PDT |
John George Haigh (1949) Told the court it took 48 hours to reduce Mrs Durand-Deacon to "a residue composed of chemically reduced remaines of flesh and bones". But it did not effect her false teeth. Mr Haige used Sulfuric Acid as used for electro-plating. |
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Re: What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
From: redrunner-ga on 10 Apr 2006 14:06 PDT |
I'm not sure if the chemical breakdown is a vital part of the story, but the best way to do it is with animals. I saw a story on the Discovery Channel about a Biologist at Berkeley that uses Dermestid Beetles and maggots (from Botflies, I think) to eat away the flesh of whale carcasses that have washed up on shore. The adavantage being that the beetle populations are cheap and nearly infinitely expandable without the use of caustic chemicals. They pick the flesh completely clean and you don't have to worry about neutralizing and disposing of chemicals. For your story it would make it possible for the protagonist to dispose of an entire body with conspicuously buying 50 gallons of hydrochloric acid, and dealing with the equipment needed to house and use it safely. This biologist says that he prefers using the beetles because they don't discolor the bones in the way that strong acids or boiling the bones would, so for your story it would be easier to cover-up. The beetles are used in taxidermy fairly regularly for the same reason. Check out this website: http://www.skulltaxidermy.com/kits.html The guy in this webiste says that his beetles can pick clean a bear skull in less than 24 hours so it is not inconceivable to clean a human body in a week with enough beetles. |
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Re: What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
From: wtallen4-ga on 10 Apr 2006 14:19 PDT |
Drain cleaner. |
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Re: What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
From: cryptica-ga on 10 Apr 2006 16:56 PDT |
Oh, yes, Follow Kemlo's suggestion and check out legendary British killer, John George Haig! I wrote & produced a mini-documentary about him several years ago. I just looked up some of my notes. . . Haigh, a k a "The Acid Bath Murderer," while in prison on fraud charges came up with the idea for a series of "perfect murders." He experimented while in prison with jam jars, field mice and very small quantities of acid in order to work out how long it would take a body to disappear in acid. On his release, he then started practicing on human beings. Haigh dissolved 5 people between 1944 and 1948 -- then stole their property by forging letters and documents and posing as a relative. All of the people he killed were his friends, including Mrs. Durand-Deacon, the 6th and last of his victims. He got her to come to his "workshop" in Crawley, where he shot her in the head. He placed her body in a 45-gallon oil drum, went out for a cup of tea and a poached egg on toast, then returned and filled the drum with sulfruic acid, left it to stand for 2 days until the body had disintegrated and swilled out the residue across the yard outside. When the police searched Haigh's workshop, they found a rubber apron, gas mask and empty carboys of acid. Plus letters and correspondence and the recently fired revolver. Haigh finally confesssed. "I've destoryed her with acid. You'll find the sludge that remains at Leopold Road. Every trace has gone," he bragged. "How can you charge me with murder when there is no BODY?" A leading forensic pathologist foraged around in the soil where the drums of acid had been dumped. He immediately picked up a small stone. What Haigh didn't realize, the skilled pathologist did: GALLSTONES don't dissolve quickly in acid. In the end, 475 pounds of earth were analyzed, which came to 28 pounds of animal fat, part of a foot, two more gall stones, Mrs. Durand-Deacon's red handbag and Mrs. Durand-Deacon's dentures. (Try saying THAT 5 times fast.) Haigh's trial lasted only 2 days, during which he shocked the courtroom by calming working on a crossword puzzle. The jury deliberated for 17 minutes. In 1949 Haigh was put to death by hanging. A perfectionist to the end, he asked for a rehearsal of his execution. (The authorities declined.) There are many photographs of Haigh's workshop and the drums and gas mask, etc., if you're interested and I also recommend an excellent book that goes into more detail about his "technique." "The Acid Bath Murders," by David Briffet. |
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Re: What is the fastest method to (chemically) dissolve a body?
From: juniorbiano-ga on 11 Apr 2006 07:14 PDT |
Hello, everyone! And many thanks for your feedback. I actually remember seeing that documentary on TV a couple of years ago, but I had a very vague memory and couldn't remember the killer's name! (or, indeed, any relevant info). This truly is excellent information! The beetles are also very thought-provoking. In answer to a question asked, no, the decomposition of the body does not have to happen chemically. Basically, it's a black comedy (as you might gather!) and one of the key scenes requires the protagonist to kill someone but lead investigators to think it is a much older body, thereby bringing the archaelogists to the scene (and ushering the cops away). Thanks again to everyone who posted here :-) |
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