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Subject: Books --- Sweep of History and Civilization
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Books and Literature
Asked by: nronronronro-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 13 Apr 2006 15:59 PDT
Expires: 13 May 2006 15:59 PDT
Question ID: 718670
Hi There!

I'm interested in history, but don't know much about it.  A speaker on
television yesterday argued that all history is misleading.  He
believes that apparent developments over the millenia in politics,
religion, science, culture, warfare, arts, etc. are all chimera.  He
believes everything is, in fact, driven solely by economics.

In his view, politics, religion, science, etc. are all just
window-dressing for the true historical drivers hidden just below the
surface:  business and economics.  In this view, all power can
ultimately be reduced to economic power.  He isn't against democracy
or other forms of government.  But he believes government and
religious institutions are Potemkin Villages, and simply don't matter.
 In fact, he would probably say they never mattered.


His theory reminded me of Karl Marx and Das Kapital.  The speaker also
took exception to these recent books:

Guns, Germs, and Steel  (too much emphasis on culture over economics)
The Rise and Fall of Great Powers (too much emphasis on
politics/warfare over economics)
Collapse (too much amphasis on environmental exhaustion over economics)
Kant (too much emphasis on everything over economics)
Fukuyama  (couldn't understand this part at all)

But you get the picture.  This guy loves economics!

A 5-star answer would be three book titles which mainly argue: 
Economics matters more than all the other factors combined.

(I know these books may be polemics, but that's OK.  I'm confused and
trying to understand this "singleminded" point of view.)

All I need are the titles.  No other data required.

All comments greatly appreciated !

Thanks.
ron

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 13 Apr 2006 19:19 PDT
Hi ron...

This isn't my area of expertise, and I can't recommend books
for having read them, but the term 'multinationals' is critical
in the search for the type of history you're seeking. The idea
that multinational corporations have long superceded national
laws, politics and economics in shaping the world as we know it
was first introduced to the general public in a speech by actor
Ned Beatty, playing the character Arthur Jensen in the movie,
'Network', in which he makes the following rant, as found on IMDB:

"You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale,
 and I won't have it. Is that clear? You think you've merely
 stopped a business deal? That is not the case. The Arabs have
 taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they
 must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is
 ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of
 nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no peoples.
 There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third
 worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of
 systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried,
 multinational dominion of dollars."

and

"The world is a business, Mr. Beale; it has been since man crawled
 out of the slime. Our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that
 perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or
 brutality - one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all
 men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold
 a share of stock - all necessities provided, all anxieties
 tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale,
 to preach this evangel."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/quotes


Given an understanding of that perspective, a Google search for:

books economics history multinationals
://www.google.com/search?q=books+economics+history+multinationals

...turns up one book at the top of the list, called 
'Leviathans : Multinational Corporations and the New Global History',
by Jr, Alfred D. Chandler. 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195127056/002-3377315-0837625?n=283155

Amazon's "Customers who bought this also bought" section on this
page shows titles which might also interest you:

 - Growth of the International Economy 1820-2000; An Introductory
   Text, 4th Edition by GEORGE KENWOOD
 - The Lever of Riches : Technological Creativity and Economic
   Progress by Joel Mokyr
 - The Rise of the Western World : A New Economic History by
   Douglass C. North
 - Structure and Change in Economic History by C. North Douglass
 - The Wealth and Poverty of Nations: Why Some Are So Rich and
   Some So Poor by David S. Landes


Another book which turns up, and sounds equally compelling, is
'A Concise Economic History of the World : From Paleolithic Times
to the Present' by Rondo Cameron, Larry Neal:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195127056/002-3377315-0837625?n=283155

Once again, "Customers who viewed this also viewed":

 - General Economic History by Max Weber
 - A History of Economic Thought by Lionel Robbins
 - Economics and World History : Myths and Paradoxes by Paul Bairoch
 - The Ordinary Business of Life : A History of Economics from the
   Ancient World to the Twenty-First Century by Roger E. Backhouse
 - American Economic History (6th Edition) by Jonathan Hughes


A third book which sounds compelling is 'The History of Foreign
Investment in the United States, 1914-1945', by Mira Wilkins.
Mira Wilkins is Professor of Economics at Florida International
University.

"2005 Choice Magazine Outstanding Academic Title"

"Co-Winner 2004 Hagely Prize for the Best Book in Business History"

"At the start of World War I, the United States was a debtor nation.
 By the end of World War II, it was a creditor nation with the
 strongest economy in the world. Integrating economic, business,
 technological, legal, and diplomatic history, this comprehensive
 study is essential to understanding the internationalization of
 the American economy, as well as broader global trends."
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/WILHII.html


Due to my lack of expertise on this topic, I'll wait for your
approval of my research results before posting this as an answer.
You may also want to leave the question open for awhile to collect
some comments, but if what I've found satisfies your interests,
let me know...

sublime1-ga

Clarification of Question by nronronronro-ga on 14 Apr 2006 03:38 PDT
sublime1----this is a 5-star answer.  Thanks a million!!
I will start reading right away.

Warm regards,
ron

P.S.  Your quote from Network took me back to another place an time. 
It made me smile.  But you stopped at the funniest line in the whole
movie.
[Paraphrasing]

Beale:   Why have you chosen me for this divine cosmological evangelism?
Jensen:  Because you're on television, dummy.

heh  heh  heh
Answer  
Subject: Re: Books --- Sweep of History and Civilization
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 14 Apr 2006 12:54 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
ron...

Thanks for accepting my research as your answer. I'll repost
it here for the sake of future readers.

That speech by Ned Beatty, while admittedly funny at the end,
was a revelation for me at the time, and really changed my
perceptions about the nature of economics vs politics in
shaping the world.

As an example, take a look at this transcript from the PBS
show NOW, with Bill Moyers, in which the topic is MTBE, which
was originally added to gasoline in California (and other
states) to help keep air pollution down. It was later found
that MTBE was leaking into the groundwater and causing major
health problems. Naturally, in the interests of health and
ecology, the California legislature wanted to initiate a 
ban on MTBE in gasoline. However, under a series of vague
clauses hidden in the language of the latest NAFTA trade
agreement, specifically, Chapter 11, it turns out that this
gives a foreign company, such as Methanex in Canada in this
case, the right to collect a penalty based on the money it
would have continued to make if MTBE was NOT banned. In this
case, the penalty is 970 million dollars, almost a billion,
if we want to ban MTBE. Obviously, this kind of penalty will
cripple most states and prevent such needed legislation from
being passed.

In short, as quoted from Martin Wagner (ATTORNEY, EARTHJUSTICE
LEGAL DEFENSE FUND), in the transcript:

"This is incredible. This is a foreign corporation coming in
 and saying first of all, that a regulation that the government
 of California, through normal democratic processes, has decided
 is important to protect health and the environment, they're
 saying that California either can't implement this protection
 or that they get $1 billion."

Much more on the page:
http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript103_full_print.html

So much for national dominion over the nation's economy.

-------------------------------------------------------------

This isn't my area of expertise, and I can't recommend books
for having read them, but the term 'multinationals' is critical
in the search for the type of history you're seeking. The idea
that multinational corporations have long superceded national
laws, politics and economics in shaping the world as we know it
was first introduced to the general public in a speech by actor
Ned Beatty, playing the character Arthur Jensen in the movie,
'Network', in which he makes the following rant, as found on IMDB:

"You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale,
 and I won't have it. Is that clear? You think you've merely
 stopped a business deal? That is not the case. The Arabs have
 taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they
 must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is
 ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of
 nations and peoples. There are no nations; there are no peoples.
 There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third
 worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of
 systems; one vast, interwoven, interacting, multivaried,
 multinational dominion of dollars."

and

"The world is a business, Mr. Beale; it has been since man crawled
 out of the slime. Our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that
 perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or
 brutality - one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all
 men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold
 a share of stock - all necessities provided, all anxieties
 tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale,
 to preach this evangel."
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/quotes


Given an understanding of that perspective, a Google search for:

books economics history multinationals
://www.google.com/search?q=books+economics+history+multinationals

...turns up one book at the top of the list, called 
'Leviathans : Multinational Corporations and the New Global History',
by Jr, Alfred D. Chandler. 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195127056/002-3377315-0837625?n=283155

Amazon's "Customers who bought this also bought" section on this
page shows titles which might also interest you:

 - Growth of the International Economy 1820-2000; An Introductory
   Text, 4th Edition by GEORGE KENWOOD
 - The Lever of Riches : Technological Creativity and Economic
   Progress by Joel Mokyr
 - The Rise of the Western World : A New Economic History by
   Douglass C. North
 - Structure and Change in Economic History by C. North Douglass
 - The Wealth and Poverty of Nations: Why Some Are So Rich and
   Some So Poor by David S. Landes


Another book which turns up, and sounds equally compelling, is
'A Concise Economic History of the World : From Paleolithic Times
to the Present' by Rondo Cameron, Larry Neal:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195127056/002-3377315-0837625?n=283155

Once again, "Customers who viewed this also viewed":

 - General Economic History by Max Weber
 - A History of Economic Thought by Lionel Robbins
 - Economics and World History : Myths and Paradoxes by Paul Bairoch
 - The Ordinary Business of Life : A History of Economics from the
   Ancient World to the Twenty-First Century by Roger E. Backhouse
 - American Economic History (6th Edition) by Jonathan Hughes


A third book which sounds compelling is 'The History of Foreign
Investment in the United States, 1914-1945', by Mira Wilkins.
Mira Wilkins is Professor of Economics at Florida International
University.

"2005 Choice Magazine Outstanding Academic Title"

"Co-Winner 2004 Hagely Prize for the Best Book in Business History"

"At the start of World War I, the United States was a debtor nation.
 By the end of World War II, it was a creditor nation with the
 strongest economy in the world. Integrating economic, business,
 technological, legal, and diplomatic history, this comprehensive
 study is essential to understanding the internationalization of
 the American economy, as well as broader global trends."
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/WILHII.html

Warm regards...

sublime1-ga


Searches done were included in the text of the answer.
nronronronro-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
sublime1---- simply terrific!  I've already started reading.

Thanks again, as always.
ron

Comments  
Subject: Re: Books --- Sweep of History and Civilization
From: sublime1-ga on 15 Apr 2006 21:13 PDT
 
Thanks very much for the rating, Ron!

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