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Subject: International Moving/Shipping Company
Category: Family and Home > Home
Asked by: taylorluker-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 15 Apr 2006 13:34 PDT
Expires: 15 May 2006 13:34 PDT
Question ID: 719253
The problem.  How to move our household goods to Panama.
 
Ideally:  a full shipping container would be dropped at our house in
Austin,. TX.  We pack up the container.  Then it is picked up and
dropped off at the our condo in Panama City, Panama in November 2006. 
We pay one price for the full container regardless of the weight.
 
Different companies will have different rules and prices.  Your job us
to find the best deal.

If it only costs a little more for the shipping company to pack and/or
unpack the container, that might be a better deal 4 us.

We need to know asap the price of a full and half container and
whether or not weight makes a difference.

Any researcher is welcome but especially the following researchers who
have experience in shipping research.

bookes19
sjb123
unclewiggly13
trailhead
pinkfreud
umiat
hummer
crabcakes
politicalguru
bikerman

Thank you

Clarification of Question by taylorluker-ga on 15 Apr 2006 13:38 PDT
we need to know asap the price of a full and half container and
whether or not weight makes a difference.
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Subject: Re: International Moving/Shipping Company
Answered By: hummer-ga on 15 Apr 2006 19:23 PDT
 
Hi  taylorluker,

Thank you for referring to me as someone you'd like to work on this
for you. I'm sorry it has taken so long to receive an answer, but it
is probably because it is not possible for researchers to get quotes
on your behalf. Unfortunately, there doesn't exist a handy set-price
per container, there are just too many variables that go into the
equation.  I've done my best to gather up the information that you
will need to make a informed decision and I've copied and pasted some
relevant sections below, but please click on the links for full
details.

>>> Weight vs Volume

Generally, the price will be determined by whichever is higher, volume
weight or actual weight.

Rating, Tare Mass and Payload of Containers
"In general, light cargo is charged based on measure, while heavy
cargo based on weight. Most sea consignments are charged based on
measure, while most air consignments are charged based on weight."
http://www.export911.com/e911/ship/w_or_m.htm

Weight or Measure in the Freight Cost Calculation
"The freight rate on export goods is often based on W/M (weight or
measure), that is, based on the weight or the volume of cargo (the
cube or measurement of cargo). The rate uses the comparative relation
between weight and volume of cargo. A cargo that is large in relation
to its weight is charged according to its total cube, while a cargo
that is heavy in relation to its size is charged according to its
gross weight."
http://www.export911.com/e911/ship/w_or_m.htm

Rating-Tare Mass-Payload 
http://www.export911.com/e911/ship/dimen.htm

Containers
http://www.indonesiaexport.com/html/freight.htm

Weight Calculator
http://www.boxbros.com/estore/weight_calc.php

>>> Price range

"Okay, you have decided to ship to Panama. Here is the skinny on your
choice. If you want the moving company to do all the packing and
loading you are going to pay a high price for that service. The
shipping of the container only can run around $2,500 to $5,000. You
still have other cost to keep in mind. When we did our moving we got
prices ranging from $7,000 to $12,000. We did it all, the whole 9
yards, for right under $6,000. Looking back at the move now, we could
have knocked off $1,000. The secret is to start early and get quotes
in pricing. If you can have family or friends help you it will save
you a lot of cash. If you are moving heavy furniture rent a small
forklift to hoist the furniture into the container."
http://forum.internationalliving.com/viewtopic.php?t=242&sid=c84ee4e47784f2abd7dbcd64525161a8

>>> Get Quotes

"...MovingScam.com has compiled a short list of companies that have
done a good job for people posting on MovingScam.com:
    * Rainier Overseas Movers
      Contact Doug Wiviott
      at 800-426-9928 x220
      www.rainieros.com
    * Security Relocation Group
      Contact John Schafer
      at 800-345-0673
      www.wemove4u.com
    * Stevens International
      Contact Michelle Dillon
      at 800-316-1065 or 260-244-7004
      www.stevensworldwide.com
      155 Diplomat Drive, Suite D
      Columbia City, IN 46725
http://www.movingscam.com/news/internationalMove.shtml

Removal Location
"Select the country you are moving or shipping from and the country
you are moving or shipping to using the Locate International Movers
wizard above. The search results will display up to six international
removal and shipping companies that can provide you with a moving or
shipping service. Complete the form and all listed companies will
contact you."
Moving from Texas to Panama
- Crown Relocations
- Links Relocations		
- Rainier Overseas Movers		
- Southern Winds International		
http://www.removalquotation.com/

International Movers - Texas to Panama
- Rainier Overseas Movers, Inc.	
- Unitrans International	
- Crown - USA - TX	
- IntlMOVE Inc.	
- Global Ocean Freight	
- Roadrunner International
http://www.intlmovers.com/Article_How_To_Deal_With_Moving_Quotes.html

Moving Companies ? Find Movers & Moving Quotes
"Remember to call a few different companies in order to get a feel for
the differences between their pricing and their services. Also, make
sure that you are asking for the exact services from each company in
order to get the most accurate price from each company."
http://www.formove.com/moving/select_mover_guide.aspx

Compare moving or relocation companies.
http://www.oneentry.com/moving_request.jsp?box1=Move&box2=private+household&ship_from_country_id=221

Find a Texas Moving Company
http://www.movedirect.net/usamovers/texas_moving_companies.php

"Immigrating to Panama for many of us, means bringing Household
Goods/Cars from the United States; as permitted by the Pensionada laws
of Panama. Here's an overview of some of the things you will need to
consider.
For shipping from the US. We used a company highly recommended by
friends who had shipped overseas several times. The company is Crown
International Forwarders..."
http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/20041003123541424

Crown International Forwarders
To obtain our competitive quote via E-mail, please fill out the form below.
You can also fill out the form and fax it to us at: (919)644-0223
or call toll-free at : 1-800-631-6881
E-Mail: Sales@Crown-Intl.com
http://www.crown-intl.com/book.html

>>> General

BBB Planning a Cost-Effective Move
"Companies will offer estimates to help you approximate moving
expenses. Such estimates can be binding (the mover guarantees the
price prior to the move) or non-binding (the mover estimates the price
and provides final charges after the shipment is weighed). To assist
movers in calculating the cost of your move, show them every item to
be moved, including the contents of your attic, basement and garage.
Ask the mover to explain the estimate in detail, and reach a clear
understanding about the amount of packing and other services you'll
require. Also, be sure you receive a copy of the estimate."
http://www.bbb.org/alerts/article.asp?ID=229

Planning an International Move
By Michael Zlotnik
How to Begin:
"Many of the steps for preplanning an international move are similar
to those of a domestic move. Do not get quotes over the internet, make
sure the company is willing to come out to your home for a visual
survey and provided you with International Relocation Brochures.
Special allowances must be made, however for the added length of time
in transit, the necessary paperwork and the various regulations
existing in the United States and foreign countries."
What to look for in an International Mover:
"Although most forwarders won't meet all of these criteria, here are
five important things to look for in an experienced forwarder.
   1. The forwarder has been in business for at least 10 years
   2. The forwarder is a FIDI Member - www.fidi.com
   3. RIM (Registered International Mover) Certification.
   4. OMNI (Overseas Movers Network International)
   5. ISO 9002 Certified"
Surveys and Estimates:
Cost to overseas destinations is based on weight and (cubic)
measurement of the household goods when packed for shipment. It
includes air or ocean transportation charges and packing and unpacking
services of the carrier's origin and destination agents. Most
shipments will be shipped in 20' or 40' containers. It does NOT
include charges for storage, servicing of appliances, custom duty,
liability coverage or extra pick up or deliver."
As with moves within the United States, we suggest that you get three estimates. 
International rates are not regulated and can be very competitive."
http://www.movingscam.com/news/internationalMove.shtml

Customs Regulations applicable while Shipping To Panama
http://www.movers.com/international_movers/customs_regulaton/140_Panama_intlService.htm

I was glad to work on this for you. If you have any questions, please
post a clarification request and wait for me to respond before
closing/rating my answer.

Thank you,
hummer

Some of the Google search terms used, but most of my time was spent
following links within links: freight 20' 40' containers by weight or
volume moving to panama from texas international movers removals
household removers
Comments  
Subject: Re: International Moving/Shipping Company
From: donovanlines-ga on 16 May 2006 18:14 PDT
 
Watch out as some of the companies mentioned here are moving companies
that might try to scam you.

Whenever moving international from the US first go to www.fmc.gov and
read the International Household Goods Moving FAQ. The FMC Federal
Maritime Commission is the US Agency that is protect comsumers moving
via ocean freight.

You cannot find actual rates on lines for moving containers. You will
have to call some of the movers and ask hem for the rates. There are
too many questions that need to be asked to give an accurate from
moving international.

To answer one of yor question if you are packing and loading your own
container weight and volume are not a consideration in hte rate.
However if you use a mover to pack and or load then YES Weight and
volume are very important.

International movers get their rates from international shipping lines
that actually own the containers. The mover is going to contact
trucking companies that can pcik up container from the port and
deliver to your home in Texas. The mover will work with another mover
in Panama to rrange the customs clearance and then the delivery of the
container to your new home there.

Any rate you found on the web would not be accurate as there are
several different compontents that go into creating a rate for moving
household goods international.

Please be careful there are a lot of scammers out there offering low
cost moves and then after the get your household goods the bill rises
and you will have no protection.

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