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Subject:
Association Bulk Email Service
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: johnnydogcow-ga List Price: $200.00 |
Posted:
21 Apr 2006 08:09 PDT
Expires: 21 May 2006 08:09 PDT Question ID: 721335 |
I work for a large statewide association that has thousands of paying members. Some of these members provide us with their email address so the member can receive weekly email updates regarding various aspects of the association. I am looking for a legitimate solution that allows us to send out email to these members without being blocked by the various spam blocking systems that ISPs currently use (we understand that the email clients also have spam blocking but I am mostly concerned about the ISP spam filtering systems in place today). Thanks so much for your help. I really appreciate your expertise. ------------------------------ Some more info that might be helpful to you: 1) We have an in house proprietary database system that we use to keep updated member info. That database contains the email address of the members that would like to receive our updates. It is not an option to modify this database to either send email or to interact with anyone else?s email system. 2) As it relates to the email issue above, we will output a list of email addresses each time we want to send an email. This allows us to select very specifically which individuals receive which updates based on certain criteria in our current system. This exported list (xls, tab, dbf, etc.) would then be used in whatever service you might help us find for our bulk email. This means using something like yahoo groups or hotmail?s opt in email system does not appear to be an option since it would cause us to have to maintain two databases of current information. 3) Our current web/email hosting company does not have a solution available to us regarding our bulk mail needs and we would rather not have to leave them in order to solve our problem. However, we do own several other domains that are not being used that we would be happy to use in order to address our bulk mail needs. In other words, if you can find us a solution that requires us to setup hosting with another company, we have domain names we can use for that. 4) Ideally this would be a password protected web-based solution that allows us to simply go to a web form and A) past in the exported email addresses, B) paste in the email message, and C) click send and we are done. 5) Our emails are not personalized so the final solution can send one email to 5,000 email addresses or one email to every individual email address, however, we want to protect the privacy of the member email addresses from the other members - in other words if one email goes to multiple addresses they would have to go out via BCC. 6) We don?t send attachments to members. We only need to send text-based email. 7) We are willing to entertain solutions in various price ranges. In other words, we don?t want to miss the perfect solution because it would cost too much. 8) We want the company we pay for this service to help keep our emails from being blocked by the major ISP based spam systems. We do not have the time nor the resources to investigate and protect against AOL, Google, Yahoo, etc. blocking our emails and we are willing to pay for such a service. 9) We currently use an in house bulk email solution that uses our email hosting SMTP server. If we send out 5,000 emails over 1,500 of them are bounced back to us without any info on how to stop the email from being blocked. We constantly receive member complaints that they aren?t receiving our email updates. Each member receives their own individual email so it can?t be that the emails are blocked because there are too many people in one email. We send out 50 emails a minute so it takes quite a while to send out 5,000. If we take those blocked emails and try to send to them a couple hours later many of those emails go through rather than being blocked (so it must be a temporary block). In other words, we are tired of trying to figure out why this process doesn?t work and would like to pay someone else to make it work for us :) 10) As I mentioned, the ideal system would be a web based, password protected, form that would allow us to paste in the email body and the email addresses and the service would take care of the rest. We are flexible on the formatting of both parts. 11) We would rather not use in house bulk mailing software, but if we do, the service you recommend should provide the SMTP server for us to use and they should also deal with the headaches associated with helping our email get through. We would like to have someone we can call or email as we have problems related to our bulk mail getting through. 12) We would rather do business with a company that has a good reputation rather than a spamming company. I just can not imagine that other associations aren?t in the same boat we are in, but when I try to find the solution all I find are shady spamming companies. Image and privacy are important to us so unless the shady spammers are the only solution we would rather go with a legitimate company. |
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Subject:
Re: Association Bulk Email Service
From: oberholtzer-ga on 21 Apr 2006 19:21 PDT |
My personal reccomendation, as a commentator and not a Researcher, would be to use the GoDaddy.com Express Email Marketing service. For your company, solutions will start at just $29.99/yr-$49.99yr. As a GoDaddy domain subscriber, I currently am very satisfied with their services and overall customer support. According to your specifications you indicated that you had to be able to import and export lists, and that is possible with the Express Email Marketing service. It is a spam-free and legal solution, with many extra features in the event that your company decides the need to use them. Features of the service "in a nutshell" include: [Subscriber Management] List import & export Advanced segmentation (interest groups) Bulk list removal Custom exporting Activity reporting Member profiles/history View campaign subscriber lists Customize subscriber list view The service features an email tracking bonus, generating easy-to-use reports that tell you how many you sent, how many were opened, and how many people responded, among other things. This could prove to be a valuable resource to the company. URL: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/blazers/cb_landing.asp?se=%2B&ci=279 If this is what you're looking for, and would like more information, please feel free to leave a clarifying comment on your own question page and I will do whatever I can to help. Searches used (in google): email marketing "express" email marketing "campaign" "software" email marketing customer "email campaign" Direct URLs: http://www.godaddy.com https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/blazers/cb_landing.asp?ci=279 Sincerely, oberholtzer |
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Re: Association Bulk Email Service
From: sparkytx-ga on 22 Apr 2006 20:10 PDT |
I've done e-mail newsletters for several small organizations and been pretty happy with Constant Contact (www.constantcontact.com). I've also read good things about Campaign Monitor (www.campaignmonitor.com) and talked to a small nonprofit executive director who was using, I think, JangoMail (www.jangomail.com) and was happy with it. And there's a whole list of further options, along with a report you can buy, here: http://www.sherpastore.com/Buyers-guide-email-service-providers-deliverability-firms.html Hope that helps. |
Subject:
Re: Association Bulk Email Service
From: icky2000-ga on 27 Apr 2006 03:04 PDT |
It sounds like you know what you are doing which is good! This is a pretty common issue for legit folks who want to send bulk email. You most certainly do not want to deal with a shady business because when they send garbage they get blocked which means your emails get blocked too. Not good. You need a respectable provider who isn't getting blocked constantly because they service both good and bad email campaigns. Nothing against the solutions already suggested but they tend not to be the kind of high quality service you are looking for. I've been an email admin for 10 years and my personal favorite company for this sort of thing is Lyris. They would be happy to sell you their software which would run on your own network but you would need an email admin to manage it and it sounds like you want to offload that work which is reasonable. Lyris also offers a web-based service as you described - it is called Lyris ListHosting. Within ListHosting they have a few different service offerings. You can see a summary of them at http://www.lyris.com/products/listhosting/ though it appears to me that their Newsletters solution is best for you (info at http://www.lyris.com/products/listhosting/features_newsletters.html). You will find that ListHosting enables you to easily add and remove large numbers of email addresses and provides really helpful reporting after the fact so you can see which messages went through, which ones were bounced, etc. Lyris' pricing is pretty reasonable in this space and their tech support is first rate. All this having been said, you do need to manage your expectations a little. There are two key issues with large lists. The first is that you are always going to have a lot of bounces becase the recipient's email server was down at that moment, the recipient's email address changed or is no longer valid, or any number of other things outside of your control. The second issue is that you just simply cannot control what other email hosts on the Internet will do with your messages. Every email admin on the planet is trying his/her hardest to block spam and they end up blocking an awful lot of legitimate but bulk emails like your stuff. No one can resolve that issue for you regardless of how much you pay them. Your best bet is to work with a trustworthy company with good service and support so you can trust that at least you have the best possible solution. My experience is that when you don't have a bulk email solution that you are confident about, you tend to assume that the problems are on your end and when individuals claim they didn't get the message you assume it is indeed your fault. It may very well be that that user's own email system blocked the message but they wouldn't know that so they complain to you and you don't have good information about things so you can't say with confidence what happened. This is, I think, where Lyris' reporting comes in. If you can lookup the last delivery to that user and confidently determine what happened, you'll feel a lot better about things. Managing a bulk email list is still a nightmare - you're always adding and removing and finding new addresses that are suddenly dead. Still, if you have a decent solution it makes things tolerable. I've opted not to go into greater detail about Lyris ListHosting because you appear technical enough to do the reading on their site and learn about the service and you should anyway. Also, Lyris is a company with real people working there so you should let them help you get set up and provide the kind of service you want. If you click on Contact Me or Sign up for ListHosting on their site they will take your contact info and a real live human will call you and help you get started. I hope this is helpful - feel free to post follow-up questions. |
Subject:
Re: Association Bulk Email Service
From: adibiz-ga on 29 Apr 2006 06:12 PDT |
Including GoDaddy.com service you can find similar options from many web hosting companies..have a visit at cashbackwebhosting.com to find them..choose a company you feel most comfortable with.. |
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