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Subject:
Can FlexFuel Vehicles run E100 vs. E85 without modifications?
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: omegavector-ga List Price: $39.50 |
Posted:
11 May 2006 20:26 PDT
Expires: 10 Jun 2006 20:26 PDT Question ID: 727960 |
If I buy a FlexFuel vehicle (FFV) (Nissan Titan 2006) which runs on E85 (85% Ethanol-15% Gasoline), will I be able to run E100 (100% Ethanol)? It doesn't exist at the pumps, but I can make it myself)? The GM advertising (www.livegreengoyellow.com) states being able to run E85 and gasoline in any mixture thus the name FlexFuel. Does this also include the combination 100% Ethanol-0% Gasoline? This would provide higher national/personal security if burning pure ethanol with no engine modifications were possible. It may be enough to make me go buy some farm land if I knew I could make my own ethanol and get around while others are stuck in their driveway with their gasoline only cars. It's kind of "hunker-down-in-a-commune-waiting-for-the-end-of-the-world" in a "maintain-my-mobile-lifestyle-in-a-techno-enviro-friendly-kind-of-way". :-) I guess to simplify the question, I would ask "Why do I even need 15% gasoline?". Mileage drops of up to 50% using E100 are of no concern to me. All I care about is if it's possible to run an FFV on pure ethanol with no modifications. | |
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Re: Can FlexFuel Vehicles run E100 vs. E85 without modifications?
From: wengland-ga on 18 May 2006 11:05 PDT |
Denco-ga already posted the link, so I won't poach his answer, but for the lazy, here's the one caveat to running E100: "At inlet air temperatures below 15 C (59 F), it is likewise not possible to start the typical internal combustion engine on pure ethanol (E100); for cold engine starts, starting the engine on gasoline and then transitioning to E100 can be done. Similarly, for starting a vehicle on E85 summer blend in extremely cold weather, it is likewise required to add additional gasoline during at least the starting of the engine, before transitioning to burning the E85 summer blend. In practice, it is easier simply to add more pure gasoline to the fuel tank when extremely cold weather is expected, prior to the arrival of the cold weather, to avoid cold engine start difficulties." So, you'd need to keep some petrol around (or starter fluid or somthing) for winter months, or devise a way to pre-heat the intake air and block to increase the vaporization of the E100 during cold months. The EPA pdf file suggested raising the speed of the starter - crank it faster. SAAB uses fancy direct injection and air injection to handle the E100 cold start issues. Other References: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/presentations/epa-fev-isaf-no55.pdf http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/31/saab-debuts-worlds-first-dino-free-hybrid/ |
Subject:
Re: Can FlexFuel Vehicles run E100 vs. E85 without modifications?
From: neilzero-ga on 22 May 2006 16:44 PDT |
You may get busted for bootleging if you make 100% ethanol. Neil |
Subject:
Re: Can FlexFuel Vehicles run E100 vs. E85 without modifications?
From: denco-ga on 22 May 2006 19:24 PDT |
Howdy Neil, Only if all you are doing lots of siphoning without catching your breath. Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher |
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