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Q: Cost of Services Used by Undocumented Hispanics? ( No Answer,   4 Comments )
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Subject: Cost of Services Used by Undocumented Hispanics?
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: bayoubill-ga
List Price: $40.00
Posted: 12 May 2006 16:43 PDT
Expires: 11 Jun 2006 16:43 PDT
Question ID: 728256
How much do undocumented Hispanics cost the taxpayers and businesses
in the United States each year?  This would hopefully include medical,
social services, legal and other indirect costs.

I will be happy to clarify and a gratuity can be expected.

Thanks
Bill
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Subject: Re: Cost of Services Used by Undocumented Hispanics?
From: myoarin-ga on 13 May 2006 14:40 PDT
 
As a commenter, I would not even attempt an answer to this question,
but a search with:
taxpayer costs illegal aliens

gets 2.6 million hits, starting with one about $10.5 billion in
California just for education, then another mentions over $1 billion
in Arizona "for education, medical care ..."

To be fair, "illegal aliens" are not all Hispanics, and the expression
illegal may not be synonymous with undocumented.
Subject: Re: Cost of Services Used by Undocumented Hispanics?
From: bayoubill-ga on 13 May 2006 19:10 PDT
 
Hi Myoarin;

The hits you got on your search string match mine very closely.  The
large number of hits is the reason that I need help on this one.

Also the $10.5B number for California that you mention is one that I
found as well.  BUT! it does not state whether that was after Social
Security (usually unclaimed) and taxes were deducted.  That number,
BTW, matches the number reported in the Washington Post given by the
Center for Immigration Studies for the WHOLE US, i.e., $10.4B. So an
in depth look is going to be required from a source that is reasonably
objective.

But your comment "As a commenter, I would not even attempt an answer
to this question" interest me greatly.  Why would you, or anyone, not
attempt to answer this question?  The reason I ask is because your
reluctance to answer the question might shed some light on why I am
having so much difficulty in answering for myself.

I certainly appreciate your comment and I truly hope that I have not
said anything that you are anyone else might find offensive.  I am
just looking for an answer.

Many thanks again..

Bill




"on the surface look" is
Subject: Re: Cost of Services Used by Undocumented Hispanics?
From: myoarin-ga on 14 May 2006 06:55 PDT
 
Greetings,
Absolutely no problem.  My opening remark was for two reasons:
After my original search, I recognized the complications of the question;
I feel that it would be unfair to a Researcher who wanted to "answer"
the question for me to delve into the subject too deeply, maybe
posting links that made it later appear that he or she had just
expanded on my links (though, heaven knows, that sounds very
presumptuous, which is not intended).

If you agree that "illegal aliens" is an adequate alternative
description for your "undocumented Hispanics", posting a clarification
could help attract a Researcher.  You might also want to clarify to
what extent you want the amount of estimated withholding taxes and
Soc. Security payments reflected.
If this is important, it might be a good idea to make this a separate
question, as the FAQs suggest (and mention in the clarification to
this question  that this information is not wanted, since you have
raised the point).

Good luck.
Subject: Re: Cost of Services Used by Undocumented Hispanics?
From: elids-ga on 14 May 2006 12:24 PDT
 
Interesting Myoarin would mention ?You might also want to clarify to
what extent you want the amount of estimated withholding taxes and
Soc. Security payments reflected.?, I was thinking along the same
lines. For instance, if an undocument immigrant is employed at
Wal*Mart, Sears, Home Depot or any other United Statesian company, the
company does not pay this man/woman ?under the table? he/she gets his
paycheck like everybody else, deductions are taken from his pay for
Social Security, Fica, Federal and State taxes etc. however, because
he/she is undocumented he is unable to claim any benefits afforded to
the average United Statesian  i/e unemployment, food stamps etc. Also,
any amount of taxes paid that would normally be given back by the
government upon filing tax returns because of their status the
undocumented workers may file but wont get their tax overpayments
back. So you see, they pay into the system but are not allowed to
participate with the benefits others do, in any attempt to estimate
the cost to the US of those that do get some benefits like emergency
health and schooling, the amount paid into the system by those that
are not allowed to benefit from it should be included.

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