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Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
Category: Relationships and Society > Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Asked by: douglascarey-ga List Price: $14.00 |
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14 May 2006 09:53 PDT
Expires: 13 Jun 2006 09:53 PDT Question ID: 728707 |
Whenever I see lesbians on tv or in public, it seems that they always have more masculine facial features. A lot of them have more wrinkles on their faces, rougher looking faces, and they look more masculine in general. Has there been research to show that this is actually true, and if so, what would the reason be? Is it a low amount of estrogen compared to straight women? |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: scriptor-ga on 14 May 2006 09:58 PDT |
I would not say that Samantha Fox looks or ever looked very masculine... Just a thought that crossed my mind. Scriptor |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: myoarin-ga on 14 May 2006 10:05 PDT |
One's impression is subjective. If one knows or believes a person of either sex is homosexual - or of some minority descent, etc. - one often "sees" features and/or mannerisms to support this impression. |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: elids-ga on 14 May 2006 11:35 PDT |
During the second and third weeks of pregnancy if the embryo is to be male the mother produces a very high amount of testosterone, this testosterone gives the embryo a kick-start and the testes begin to develop, from then on all the testosterone the embryo needs will be produced by his own testes. The original production of testosterone by the mother also gives the brain it?s basic structure with the physical connections that the brains of males have. Later on this is further developed by the embryo?s own testosterone?s influence. If the embryo is supposed to be a female there is no extra production of testosterone by the mother and the embryo continues as it was (we all start as female zygotes, males are the consequence of the evolution of sexual reproduction). If the mother happens to produce this extra amount of testosterone during the second and third weeks of pregnancy as if the embryo was to be a male, it will ?wire? the brain of the female embryo as if it was that of a male. Since the female lacks testes it will not produce the necessary testosterone to turn this embryo into a male and it remains a female, although the basic wiring of the male brain has already been done. In effect you will have a male brain (acting as such, being attracted to females, more adept at certain tasks etc.) trapped inside a female body, that gives you the phenomena we know as lesbians. For gays the exact opposite is true, the mother fails to produce the necessary testosterone at the right time, and although the embryo?s own testes will later produce the testosterone that turns the embryo into a male it already has the basic wiring of a female with all it?s attributes. Later contributions of hormones either male or female will only replace the normal amounts needed in the body not add to them. For instance, if a normal male is injected with testosterone, his testes will stop producing it so as not to have an overabundance of the hormone. In fact, if the treatment is prolonged the testes will shrink. So, no masculine or feminine physical characteristics should be attributed to one or the other since the effect is not the result of current hormonal levels but the levels of testosterone the embryo was exposed to between the second and third weeks of pregnancy, long before any features were developed. Although I present this as fact it has not yet been proven. However, in my mind it is the most likely explanation, among others it explains in a very simple manner why homosexuality persists although it is something that natural selection forces would?ve eliminated eons ago. |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 14 May 2006 11:41 PDT |
Many of the lesbians I have known have worn little or no makeup. This might make them appear less feminine in a culture in which shiny red lips, fake pink cheeks, and exaggerated eyelashes are seen as signs of femininity. |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: alanna-ga on 14 May 2006 12:45 PDT |
I know it's "only a movie," but ... http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn_360/lesbiandrama.html |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: frde-ga on 15 May 2006 03:00 PDT |
I vaguely remember reading something written in the 1930s, suggesting that female cousins/sisters who lived together were not as 'related' as they let on. I suspect that our impressions are biased by 'aggressive' displays of sexual preference Once an interesting woman who had spent a lot of time in Saudi, said that 'the men are pigs, but the women don't care - as they are into each other' While one can judge a book by its cover, it is not a very reliable technique. |
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Re: Lesbians- Do They Actually Have More Masculine Features?
From: heather3636-ga on 30 Oct 2006 01:13 PST |
I think the many of the differences that you are seeing on TV has to do with what Hollywood producers think Lesbians look like. In my social interactions with lesbians I have found a much larger 'comfortable shoe' type look that would frequently hang out together, but I know too many lesbians that do not share this look to think it is a lesbian 'trait'. I do think your question is interesting though in respect to 'gaydar'. What is gaydar? How do I know when I am discussing what kind of coffee to get with someone at the grocery store do I know that they are likely gay? Sometimes it is dressing in a way or a kind of grooming that indicates that they may be gay, but I just don't believe this is all there is to it. |
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