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Subject:
Locating a Painting of a Ancient Court Trial
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Visual Arts Asked by: montgomery742-ga List Price: $60.00 |
Posted:
16 May 2006 20:52 PDT
Expires: 15 Jun 2006 20:52 PDT Question ID: 729616 |
Id like to locate a specific painting of a court trial. This painting is described in a memoir I was reading. The painting is said to portray a Roman court house. We can see all involved parties, the accused, the judges, the prosecutor and even the families. It seems that the son of the accused, perhaps a child, is holding the floor, in an attempt defend his fathers fate. I have previously asked the question on Google answers, (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=725273#a), but after realizing what is involved in locating a painting and on the advice of knowledgeable commenters I?m narrowing the question and increasing the value. Many more details of the viewing are recorded in the memoirs, and are relayed in much detail in the previous post. However, as can been seen from the previous post, theres a lot of confusion as to what really happened. The important thing to bear in mind is locating the painting itself, ie. an elaborately drawn court scene (Roman or not) with a son (perhaps a child) as the focus. All the other details discussed in the previous post, such as the painter, the location etc. etc. are to be used as pointers that may or may not assist in finding the painting. Its all quite complicated. Any help, both on this question and the previous one, would be greatly appreciated. |
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Re: Locating a Painting of a Ancient Court Trial
From: pinkfreud-ga on 17 May 2006 11:54 PDT |
There is a brief mention here of "A Child Testifying to Its Mother's Innocence," by Titian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizian |
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Re: Locating a Painting of a Ancient Court Trial
From: myoarin-ga on 31 May 2006 02:47 PDT |
Greetings again, A newspaper review of a new exhibit here suddenly let me wonder if the "Raphael" in the memoirs might have been a misunderstanding of the guide's mentioning "Pre-Raphaelites", an English art movement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Raphaelite_Brotherhood In Germany, this was preceded by the "Nazarene Movement", whose artists had a similar style. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_movement http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarener_(Kunst) The German Wikipedia site has, indeed, a painting that could maybe fit the description of the court scene, though it does not included as many persons and parties as the memoirs report: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Peter_von_Cornelius_002.jpg If we may assume that this picture was in Berlin back then, a guide in the German capital could be knowledgeable enough the relate the Nazarenes with the English Pre-Raphaelites - perhaps proudly claiming that the English movement was just an off-shoot of the German one. Although pure landscape paintings were not generally the subject of either group, their idealized style could account for the bird's not bending the stalk of grass. (But a German peasant with an accent/dialect that pronounced Raphael as "Chachael" doesn't ring a bell with me. Perhaps a Polish peasant? Polish was spoken in the eastern part of the Reich, and it would have been easy to laugh at a Polish peasant's mispronunciation. ??) Reference to Pre-Raphaelites could account for a the author's misunderstanding, his latching on to the name, since he recognized it, and perhaps his thinking that it also applied to painting that wasn't in that style. Mostly speculation. I looked at quite a few paintings, but couldn't find any that were closer than that of Joseph and Pharao, which would have been correctly identified and a subject familiar to everyone in those days. Perhaps this jogs someone else's thoughts. Regards, Myoarin |
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Re: Locating a Painting of a Ancient Court Trial
From: montgomery742-ga on 15 Jun 2006 19:39 PDT |
Thanks Myoarin. This is obviously moore difficult than i thought, but I havent given up. Thanks again for all your insights. |
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