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Powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords
Category: Computers > Hardware Asked by: bob_b_1999-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
17 May 2006 08:42 PDT
Expires: 16 Jun 2006 08:42 PDT Question ID: 729736 |
Are there powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords? I have a lot of computer equipment that needs to stay operational 24x7. It?s all connected to UPSs. I'd like to connect each UPS to a device (which could be a powerstrip, surge protector, or similar) with TWO power cords, so it can be plugged into TWO outlets (on two different circuits), drawing power from cord "A", but using cord "B" if "A" goes dead. This setup would allow me to move the equipment, if I needed to, to a different office, or different floor, without powering anything down: just move powercord "A", then "B", then "A" again, etc. And it would also improve my everyday reliability, since my equipment would continue to operate even if one of the circuits failed. Does anyone know where I could get a double-powercord device like what I describe above? |
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Re: Powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords
Answered By: crabcakes-ga on 17 May 2006 09:16 PDT Rated: |
Hello Bob_b_1999, Your idea, as you wrote it, (And as I understood it) would not work, as it would be backfeeding power, creating one circuit from the two. Your best bet would be to purchase an electrical redundancy switching device, or STS. Since I don't know your needs, I will suggest places for you to search out the exact device that will fit your needs. Genpro has various sizes. http://www.genpropower.com/static_transfer.htm GE STSs http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products?pnlid=8&famid=46&catid=1661&id=sts&lang=en_US Eaton STSs http://www.powerware.com/UPS/Static_Transfer_Switch.asp Cyberex http://www.cyberex.com/members/super_switch/index.html About Static Transfer Switches http://www.mgeups.com/download/doc_intl/catalog/aft_uk.pdf If none of the above are the correct product size, call Graybar. I learned while in an IT program to count on these people. Talk to one of their reps, who I'm sure can obtain just the right switch for you. They may suggest a smaller type of switch, depending on the size of your infrastructure. Graybar http://graybar.com/ Cyberguys, my favorite online source carries liberators that may help you out as well, but NOT to supply power from two sources (No switch in the liberators): http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/SearchAll.asp?s=SA Hope this helps! Please ask for an Answer Clarification, if not! Regards, Crabcakes Search Terms ============ electrical redundancy + IT + switches STS switch | |
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bob_b_1999-ga
rated this answer:
While Crabcakes' answer wasn't exactly what I was looking for, it got me close enough (and gave me the applicable terminology) that I was able to find the appropriate device myself. |
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Re: Powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords
From: eiffel-ga on 17 May 2006 10:51 PDT |
I agree with crabcakes-ga on this one. Whatever you do, don't wire up something yourself in the way you described, for safety reasons. Consider what would happen if you unplugged powercord B. Now the voltage would be feeding through from powercord A, making the pins of B electrically live. There must be some kind of switchover device to make this work safely. |
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Re: Powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords
From: bob_b_1999-ga on 17 May 2006 11:02 PDT |
Well, yes Crabcake, these STS units would certainly do the job, but they're extremely high-end! The first one I looked at sells for $70,000, and all of them are multi-thousands. I was looking for something in the couple-hundred range. This would seem feasible, since one of our UNIX boxes, an IBM xseries 236, has two power cords (this is what gave me the idea in the first place), and the entire system sells for under $2K. |
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Re: Powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords
From: redfoxjumps-ga on 17 May 2006 23:56 PDT |
Would a portable generator/battery on a large cart with a ups seve for moving equipment? At least you could take it into the elevator live. Daisy chaining up an down the halls seems a lot of work. What is the maximum time they can be disconnect from the network? |
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Re: Powerstrips or surge protectors with TWO supply-side power cords
From: bob_b_1999-ga on 20 May 2006 06:59 PDT |
Based on the leg up from Crabcakes, I found exactly what I was looking for myself. APC makes a line of them, selling for around $500: http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=14 "APC?s Rack Automatic Transfer Switch (ATS), also known as the Redundant Switch, is a high availability switch that has two input power cords, one for each AC line, which provide redundant power to connected equipment. The Rack ATS is designed to supply power to the connected load from a primary AC source. If that primary source becomes unavailable for whatever reason, the Rack ATS will automatically begin sourcing power from the secondary source. The transfer time from one source to the other is seamless to the connected equipment." |
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