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Subject:
Air to Air Rescue via Cable Connection Between Aircraft in Flight
Category: Science Asked by: maphound-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
05 Oct 2002 20:18 PDT
Expires: 04 Nov 2002 19:18 PST Question ID: 73072 |
Is an air-to-air rescue as shown at the end of the movie "Air Force One" an actual possibility? Has it ever been done in an actual rescue situation? The answer should point to references on air-to-air rescue where a cable is connected between the aircraft and people are removed from the stricken aircraft. |
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Subject:
Re: Air to Air Rescue via Cable Connection Between Aircraft in Flight
From: secret901-ga on 05 Oct 2002 21:23 PDT |
I only located a DoD briefing that indicates such rescues are unrealistic: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct1999/t10261999_t1026asd.html Q: People who watch, I don't know, popular movie culture have perhaps an overly optimistic idea of what it is the military can accomplish in terms of some sort of air to air rescue or something like that? Mr. Bacon: Well, I don't think many people would believe that to be possible. I think what people should take away from this is that the FAA as the supervising agency, working with military support, performed competently, calmly, quickly and brilliantly in the face of a very potentially risky and unknown, scary situation. And I think from the very beginning when they discovered that they couldn't make radio contact with this plane, what you saw was a very rational and competent approach to dealing with the problem. And part of a rational, competent approach is not overreacting. And I don't think there was overreaction here. I think that they were able to calculate where the plane was going. They made reasonable judgments, and those judgments turned out to be correct. secret901 |
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Re: Air to Air Rescue via Cable Connection Between Aircraft in Flight
From: nronronronro-ga on 05 Oct 2002 22:17 PDT |
fyi: A special Air Force unit based in Hawaii, the 6593rd Test Squadron flew modified C-119 and C-130 aircraft. Good place to start researching. Good luck. |
Subject:
Re: Air to Air Rescue via Cable Connection Between Aircraft in Flight
From: neumann-ga on 02 Nov 2002 05:04 PST |
It is TREMENDOUSLY unrealistic. Most people don't realize the effect the 150+ mph "wind" would have on the human bodies as they attempted to travel from one aircraft to the other. Think of a little flag on the antenna of a car going highway speed. See it whipping? Now put one of those little green plastic army men on the end of the flag. See how he's whipping? How long could you survive that? Real life example: If a paratrooper gets hung up on the way out the door of a C-130, the turbulence will beat him senseless in just a few seconds. It'll kill him in a few minutes. The wind forces are so strong, in fact that it requires a special winch in the plane for just such an emergency. It's called a Static Line Retriever. The aircrew has a few minutes to either get the trooper winched back in or to cut him loose and hope he's still conscious enough to pull his own backup rip cord... but tethered there to that aircraft, he's a dead man for sure. So can you take a cable, tether a couple planes together, and transfer civilians across it? Not a chance. Has it ever been done for real? Nope. Bob |
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Re: Air to Air Rescue via Cable Connection Between Aircraft in Flight
From: maphound-ga on 02 Nov 2002 07:28 PST |
Thanks for your response. As the poster of the question, I would consider your comment an answer, and the question to be closed. You have a very good point. I knew it all looked impossible, but I couldn't put my finger on why. You did. Thanks. |
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