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Subject: Water and Dehydration
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases
Asked by: tanyat117-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 24 May 2006 13:51 PDT
Expires: 23 Jun 2006 13:51 PDT
Question ID: 732091
My grandmother has been the hospital for over a month.  She has
dementia, diabetes, and heart failure.  Two weeks and two days ago the
doctors removed her I.V. to speed the dying process and now hospice
has taking over her care.  It has been over 3 weeks since she had
food.  For not having anything to eat or drink in so long, she is
surprisingly alert, and seems comfortable.  She opens her eyes, and
has even responded approriately to questions being asked.  My question
is, is this normal?  I read online that most people die from not
having water after a period of 3-9 days.  It is painful to experience
this kind of dehydration?  At this point, it seems cruel to keep
withholding water from her.  But my question is not a moral one, but a
curiousity one.  Thanks for the response!
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Subject: Re: Water and Dehydration
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 25 May 2006 08:19 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear tanyat117-ga;

Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question.
Interestingly enough terminal dehydration is considered one of the
many more preferable means of death. To put this into context, leading
hospice nurses in Oregon rated terminal dehydration on a scale of 0
(the most undesirable death) to 10 (the most comfortable death) at an
8 on the scale. According to Dr. Joanne Lynn, MD and Dr. Joan Harrold,
MD in their ?Handbook for Mortals: Guidance for People Facing Serious
Illness?, the dehydration itself is often responsible for the measure
of comfort one experiences at the end stages of life. Here are some
facts from their research that you may find especially comforting:

?Dehydration has an analgesic effect in some patients, leading them to
request less medication to control pain than they usually need.  Part
of the decrease in pain can be attributed to the reduction of swelling
in patients who have tumors.

Dehydration leads to a more general decrease in sensation levels as
time progresses.

Patients who forgo artificially provided nutrition and hydration
eliminate the irritation associated with the feeding tubes.  This
irritation is not only physical, but mental as well:  Eliminating tube
feeding decreases the trapped, agitated feelings that require many
tube fed patients to be physically restrained.

Patients who forgo artificially provided nutrition and hydration
suffer less from congestion, coughing, choking and the "drowning"
sensation that often accompanies tube feeding.  The possibility of
developing aspiration pneumonia also decreases with cessation of tube
feeding.

Patients who forgo artificially provided nutrition and hydration are
less likely to vomit.

Decreased urine output in patients who forgo artificially provided
nutrition leads to the decrease or elimination of urinary related
sources of pain and discomfort (bed wetting accidents, the need for
bed pans, diaper changes, and trips to commode, and the incidence of
urinary tract infection all decrease with the elimination of fluid
intake).?
SOURCE: ?Handbook for Mortals: Guidance for People Facing Serious
Illness? (2001 New York: Oxford University Press, pp. 129-138)
END OF LIFE OPTIONS: TUBE-FEEDING
http://www.dickinson.edu/endoflife/MedicineBenefits.html

It may also comfort you to know that thirst, pain and nausea are
actually quite rare symptoms in this type of demise. A dry mouth is
one of the most common symptoms but this can be easily addressed with
small sips of water, ice chips or glycerin swabs if necessary. This
will aid in reducing the dry sensation while not defeating or
unnecessarily prolonging the natural chain of events.

END OF LIFE OPTIONS: TUBE-FEEDING
http://www.dickinson.edu/endoflife/MedicineCare.html

There will, of course, always be nay-sayers who claim that
?starvation? or dehydration is a cruel, inhumane, and agonizing death,
the facts appear to support the notion that such is not the case.
According to Dr. Ira Byock, director of palliative medicine at
Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire, and author of the
book ?Dying Well?, "The cessation of eating and drinking is the
dominant way that mammals die?it is a very gentle way that nature has
provided for animals to leave this life." "Nature has given us a
wonderfully peaceful way to exit this life."

WORLD NET DAILY
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43467

DARTMOUTH SCHOOL OF MEDICINE
http://dms.dartmouth.edu/news/publications/news/2005/mar05.shtml

AMAZON
?Dying Well?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1573226572/booknoisenet-20/002-7376743-3435265

As for the time that has passed in your loved one?s and the typical
time it takes for a person to succumb, it should be noted that
everyone is different. For example, if your grandmother has congestive
heart failure and had been abnormally retaining water in her tissues
(edema), this could account for the extraordinarily long time it has
taken for her to succumb. Conversely, a person who had been water
deficient leading up to the denial of food and fluids might succumb in
only a matter of days or even hours. Having said that, a patient who
is suffering from a disease wherein their normal cognitive abilities
are directly impacted by the retention of water (stress on the heart,
lack of oxygen to the brain, etc) such as congestive heart failure for
example, may actually experience a brief ?alertness? for a time as the
body chemistry is equalized and the previously problematic storage of
water is exhausted. This however will likely be brief as the chemistry
starts declining once the excess water, minerals, and electrolytes are
naturally consumed or eliminated and the body begins to shut down.
Once the body is denied these elements the decline should be
relatively rapid and your grandmother will likely pass in a painless
state of unconsciousness.

Given the extraordinary time frame since your grandmother has been
without fluids it may also be comforting to know that her passing is,
in all likelihood, imminent and the final days are fast approaching.
You should mentally and emotionally prepare for that notification
soon. According to leading authorities like Dr. Bycock for example, if
she is comfortable and not in duress at this late stage of the
process, she will probably pass away in that same state of comfort.

I hope you find that my answer exceeds your expectations. If you have
any questions about my research please post a clarification request
prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your
final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the
near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher



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tanyat117-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $5.00
Great answer, very clear and concise.  Thank you very much for not
only answering my question, but also for giving me comfort as I am
about to experience a very tough loss in my life!

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Subject: Re: Water and Dehydration
From: markvmd-ga on 24 May 2006 20:38 PDT
 
I am sorry to hear that your grandmother is at the end of her life and
is forced to go through this process in such a manner. She is
fortunate that this option is available at all and the special people
at Hospice will make it easy for her to die easily, painlessly, and
with as much dignity as possible in our time.

I urge a Researcher to provide one of their well-thought-out answers.
This is an interesting topic and needs the input of those terrific
folks.

I will say that I do not believe your grandmother is in discomfort.
Dehydration is not thirst. It usually causes a sleepy, tired feeling.
She may feel as though the room is cold. The drop in blood volume can
make it easier for a taxed heart to pump blood and a lowered blood
pressure from relaxing vessels can make it easier for blood to perfuse
tissue such as the brain, leading to increased cognitive functioning.

Soon your grandmother may see deceased relatives, even report talking
to them. It will comfort her. At this point, the end is usually quite
near.

One day we will live in a land where Death isn't regulated by
politicians, physicians, or insurance companies (well, maybe insurance
companies). Like in Soylent Green, you will be able to go to a very
nice place, see a good show, and peacefully drift off when YOU choose.
For now, be sure to have your medical will prepared.

My best wishes to your grandmother for a dignified, peaceful passing.
Subject: Re: Water and Dehydration
From: tanyat117-ga on 25 May 2006 06:45 PDT
 
Thank you so much for your reply.  I am comforted to know that she is
not in pain.  Today is her 17th day without fluids, she seems to be
doing so well, that it is hard to see an end in sight.  What you say
about reduced blood pressure and relaxed blood vessels makes sense to
me, and would explain the alertness.  Unfortunately, I live 5 hours
from my grandmother and so I am not able to see her condition on a
daily basis, I only hear how she is from relatives.  The hardest part
is waiting for the phone call that she has finally passed.  Thanks
again for your kind words and insightful response.

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