|
|
Subject:
Use of the word "baby" in songs
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: dhom-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
26 May 2006 09:03 PDT
Expires: 25 Jun 2006 09:03 PDT Question ID: 732609 |
I'm a middle school teacher in California, and our class is doing a project analyzing music lyrics. I'm looking for stastics that compare these uses of the word "baby" in lyrics of all songs that are written in English: Percentage of uses that refer to an dating-age daughter Percentage of uses that refer to a wife/girlfriend |
|
There is no answer at this time. |
|
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: frde-ga on 26 May 2006 09:52 PDT |
I am speechless |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: myoarin-ga on 26 May 2006 10:19 PDT |
Interesting project. "dating-aged daughter": do you mean a song referring to a girl that age, versus older girlfriend or wife? Or do you mean a song from the perspective of a parent? "all songs that are written in English": that is a rather sweeping request. I think you will have better luck if you can set some parameters. Researchers shy away from questions seeking or based on "all" of something. Good luck. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: pinkfreud-ga on 26 May 2006 10:39 PDT |
I don't think this is a do-able project, since it will require human scrutiny of a huge amount of material. An automated search for the word "baby" in song lyrics will not reveal context. I can't begin to imagine how long it would take for a human to gather all song lyrics in English that contain the word "baby," but adding the requirement that the word's meaning in context will need to be determined makes this an immense undertaking. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: cryptica-ga on 26 May 2006 11:40 PDT |
Pink-- I agree with you. This is a massive undertaking. But if you happen to be near a library or a Barnes & Noble, you could take a quick pass thru the book I've mentioned on here before, THE GREEN BOOK OF SONGS BY SUBJECT, written by my brother. The category of "BABY" will list songs with "Baby" in the title or songs about babies -- literal and figurative. Not that this will then allow a breakdown into the age of each "baby," but with so many titles in one place, it might help make an overview speculation. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: nelson-ga on 26 May 2006 19:58 PDT |
It's little wonder our nation's education system is in the sorry state it is in. What, pray tell, is the purpose of this assignment? |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: myoarin-ga on 27 May 2006 02:56 PDT |
And then there are the songs with "baby" that have no apparent reference to females of any age: "My baby baby, balla balla My baby baby, balla balla My baby baby, balla balla My baby baby, balla balla My baby baby, balla balla Ooh balla balla." "Baby Baby Balla Balla" 1st verse, "rainbows", 1966 Thanks to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in an article today about the coming soccer World Championship. Baby can also refer to a male of undefined age. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: differentstrokes-ga on 28 May 2006 02:11 PDT |
When I was a teenager (early 60s) there was a lot of controversy about the use of 'baby' in pop lyrics. It was almost a 'cause celebre'. There was mockery at the prevalent fashion for singing to 'your baby'. There was even some disquiet about whether teenage girls/young women should ever be called 'baby' at all. And there was something highly incongruous in the image of rough, violent, motor-biking rock'n'rollers (who were often slashing cinema seats in riots on Saturday nights) calling their girlfriends 'baby'. Remember that in those days, for the first time ever, teenagers were beginning to have significant pocket money - and were acquiring their own form of popular music. Previously popular music had been directed at adults and had dealt with adult themes ('Set 'em up Joe, it's a quarter to four...etc' - Frank Sinatra in a sleezy bay, knocking back whiskies). We also had, at the time, the controversial film: 'Baby Doll'. Into this controversy marched the Supremes in jackboots and candyfloss with their world best-seller 'Baby Love'. 'Baby Love' took 'baby' as a part of the lyric to a new extreme: 'Baby love, my baby love... baby, baby, baby, baby, baby love, my baby love, why must we separate, my love?' So your question brings back the fondest memories of listening to the latest Supremes' record in a listening booth in a record shop on the way home from school at the age of 16, dazzled by the sheer audaciousness (almost rebelliousness) of the lyric - and the sheer loveliness/glamour/mystery of this group of girls with this strange new sound! Best of luck with your project! |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: differentstrokes-ga on 28 May 2006 02:27 PDT |
A quick way you could complete your project would be to scan into an OCR word-processing program the index to one of the many compilation books of Top 20, Top 50, Top 100 hits of the last 50 years. Save the file in Plain Text format. Then resave in Word format. Edit the information you have captured, deleting everything except the information you need. Save the information in something like the following format with one line per song. REERENCE NUMBER:TITLE:ARTIST:COMPOSER:DATE OF CHART ENTRY:HIGHEST CHART POSITION;LENGTH OF TIME ON CHARTS:NOTES [or any other information you need] Create a table in 'Word', using colons as separators. Then sort the information as you wish. This will give you a list of songs. Individual research into the frequency of word occurences in each song is as follows: 1) Locate the song on a find-the-lyric type website, using the master list you have created. 2) Cut and paste the lyric into a word processing program. 3) Save in Plain Text format. 4) Resave in Word format. 5) Reformat so that each word appears on a separate line [either do this manually or create a macro to automate the task]. 6) Save as a table. 7) Sort according to text. This will give you the number of times the word 'baby' occurs. It will also give you the frequency of the appearance of other words. You can express the frequency of 'baby' either as a rank or percentage of the whole. A rank preference is more striking. I teach English to speakers of other languages and I use the method with various texts in order to streamline the process of vocabulary learning. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: thursdaylast23-ga on 29 May 2006 09:12 PDT |
Re: nelson's comment. I do not know the exact purpose of dhom's assignment, but I use a similar kind of exercise with first year university students in the English composition courses that I teach. I've found it to be an excellent way to introduce students to rhetorical analysis and help them think about the way they use language in their own writing. Beyond that, the exercise can be used as a tool for cultural analysis with a number of applications, depending on the context of the assignment. If dhom is doing such work with middle schoolers, I'm impressed. It's hard enough to get 18-year-olds to look critically at the language of popular culture. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: dhom-ga on 29 May 2006 21:13 PDT |
Thanks for all of your comments! Good question, myoarin. I should have been clearer. The question was meant to ask for a comparison of the use of "baby" from the perspective of the parent of a dating-age daughter vs. the perspective of that person's boyfriend or spouse. I'm willing to take a less comprehensive selection of the available data for my answer. I allowed the students to define this question. They have no experience looking at lexical data when analyzing songs or other texts, and I figured that allowing them to define the question would allow them to learn more in the process. The original goal of my class project was to help students analyze different forms of media to identify the message communicated by and the philosophy undergirding each text. As it turned out, some students also had difficulties reading words in context and wanted to obtain information about the usages of words such as "baby" in English music in general to help them analyze specific songs. I've raised the price to $20 and am willing to take data from a narrower sample of songs, such as English pop songs written in 1980-2000. I can be flexible here. Thanks if you can help! |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: cynthia-ga on 01 Jun 2006 03:28 PDT |
You might find this interesting: http://www.geocities.com/tagonist/britneyanalysis/lyrics2.html |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: pinkfreud-ga on 01 Jun 2006 10:57 PDT |
>> I've raised the price to $20 and am willing to take data from a >> narrower sample of songs, such as English pop songs written in >> 1980-2000. As I mentioned above, the necessity of examining the context of the word "baby" means that an automated search won't do the job. Even with your limitation, the Researcher will need to find and read the lyrics of thousands of songs. |
Subject:
Re: Use of the word "baby" in songs
From: thursdaylast23-ga on 01 Jun 2006 16:10 PDT |
The article below might be interesting to you, in a general way. The author does make several observations about the occurence of the word "baby" in his analysis, although he did not account statistically for its specific lyrical context. ?Words of love and isolation: Individualism and alienation in popular love songs, 1930-1999,? Thomas J. Scheff http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME04/Words_love_isolation.shtml |
If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by emailing us at answers-support@google.com with the question ID listed above. Thank you. |
Search Google Answers for |
Google Home - Answers FAQ - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy |