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Subject:
Keg Beer Accountibility
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: vern7895-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
26 May 2006 12:55 PDT
Expires: 25 Jun 2006 12:55 PDT Question ID: 732697 |
Omaha, Nebraska, Douglas County requires a legal aged individual purchasing keg beer from a retail establishment to sign a registration form. I believe the registration removes legal responsibility from the owner of the establishment to the purchaser. The problem with the registration slip/card, which is attached to the keg, is that it is easily removed and discarded once outside the retail establishment. Police have no way of tracking ownership of the keg should an accident or death occur as a result of serving from the keg at a party or the like. Are there municipalities, counties or states in other parts of the country that require registration and what are they doing to assure trace ability? If not, suggestions? |
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Subject:
Re: Keg Beer Accountibility
From: myoarin-ga on 26 May 2006 14:16 PDT |
Doesn't the keg have a number embossed in the metal? Is the number recorded on the form? Doesn't the vendor have a copy of the form? If so, the keg can be traced. Are you sure that the purpose of the form is as you say? It seems that that vendor could easily demonstrate that he was not the person serviing the beer, especially if he had no bar or catering service. |
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Re: Keg Beer Accountibility
From: vern7895-ga on 28 May 2006 15:43 PDT |
I was recently at public hearing where two or three police officers concurred with each other in that it seems that many kegs do not have identifiable numbers and that manufactures seemed to have stopped numbering the kegs. Without any keg identification either through stamped/embossed numbers or attached registration cards, "...tracing ownership of a keg becomes an almost impossible task." As far as your comment/question: "Are you sure that the purpose of the form is as you say? It seems that that vendor could easily demonstrate that he was not the person serviing the beer, especially if he had no bar or catering service." I think you are missing the point. If there is a keg party out in the middle of a cornfield where the keg is unattended and fully accessible by all who happen to be under aged individuals and one of them leaves the party fully intoxicated and is killed in auto accident?who is responsible for that individual?s death? The person who bought the keg and delivered it to the party? The retail establishment that sold the keg? Is there any proof that they did or did not sale to someone of legal age? This county requires any retail establishment selling a keg of beer to have the purchaser to fill out a registration card. The requirement is, in my opinion, an exercise of having SOMETHING in place (regardless of its effectiveness) in which to place accountability/responsibility and is designed to start with the retail establishment. Your response to my questions doesn't answer: "Are there municipalities, counties or states in other parts of the country that require registration and what are they doing to assure trace ability? If not, suggestions?" |
Subject:
Re: Keg Beer Accountibility
From: myoarin-ga on 28 May 2006 16:15 PDT |
Vern, Yes, I missed the point, but do now understand. Thanks. Maybe others here will now, too. I hope so. Regards, Myoarin |
Subject:
Re: Keg Beer Accountibility
From: myoarin-ga on 29 May 2006 02:48 PDT |
Here we go, from NY and California: http://www.abc.state.ny.us/announcements/BULLETIN%20NO.%20586.pdf http://www.abc.ca.gov/FORMS/ABC544.pdf And here is a long discussion of the subject. Only the cache file would open: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:J3pcIvC3-4EJ:www.epi.umn.edu/alcohol/policy/img/SOCIAL_COMBINED_2005.PDF+control+of+beer+keg&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14 And here is a shorter one, that may be an condensed version of the above. It mentions places that have implemented beer registration: http://legistar.cityofgainesville.org/attachments/2335.pdf You can find many more sites with a search for: beer keg registration Apparently the problem of the keg registration label 's being removed is addressed by having a healthy deposit on the keg - $ 75 in NY - and only returning it when the keg is returned with the label intact. No system is perfect, but it would seem that if something unfortunate happened in an area, the police would be able to find out who bought and did not return a keg, und the the NY system. Hope this helps, Myoarin |
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