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physics
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: neverenoughtime-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
27 May 2006 23:25 PDT
Expires: 26 Jun 2006 23:25 PDT Question ID: 732978 |
I can't stop thinking about this. If i travelled away from the Earth at exactly the speed of light (let's pretend we can travel at light or faster speeds)will my view of the earth always be the same (no change in cloud formations or sunlight. So if this is correct then if a travel away from the earth at faster than light, then would i begin to see the Earth of my past. I am talking only here about what i can see not what the actual state of the earth is. I can't think why this experiment would not....can you? |
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Re: physics
From: elids-ga on 28 May 2006 07:21 PDT |
Not really, while you are traveling faster than the speed of light the light that left the earth would not be able to ?catch up? with you. So, you would not see the earth at all. When you lower your speed to a slower than light speed the light that left the prior to your departure would be able to catch up with you and you would see it as it was prior to your departure but always moving forward. |
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Re: physics
From: frde-ga on 28 May 2006 09:38 PDT |
If you could teleport yourself to somewhere 100 light years away - then you would see the earth as it was 100 years ago |
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Re: physics
From: myoarin-ga on 28 May 2006 10:02 PDT |
Ah, Elids, but I think you would see the earth (forgetting everything else involved), catching up with and passing light from earth that started before you left, if you (could) move faster than the speed of light, seeing the reverse of cloud development, for example. If this were so, then I expect that Neverenoughtime is right: traveling at the speed of light, you would be traveling along with an unchanging image of the earth. |
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Re: physics
From: elids-ga on 28 May 2006 10:53 PDT |
Hmm well you are correct if traveling faster than light and looking away from earth he would catch up with the light that left before he did and in fact see the earth going backwards in time. But if he is looking at earth he would see nothing as light wouldn?t be able to catch up with him. Good point Myoarin. |
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Re: physics
From: mechted-ga on 28 May 2006 14:58 PDT |
If you were traveling at the speed of light, you would see the earth at a single instant in time. Traveling faster than the speed of light would allow you to see the earth in your past. It's not a problem of the light 'catching up' with you, it has already left. It's a matter of you 'catching up' with the light. However, there is only so much light at each distance from the object being viewed (earth). Traveling at the speed of light would only allow you to view the Earth for the instant that you reach light speed. The information would be used up and, since you are moving at the pace of the information, you would not recieve any more until you accelerated. All this forgoing the fact that traveling at the speed of light would require infinite energy and completely stop time for the travelers. |
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Re: physics
From: mathisfun-ga on 29 May 2006 22:31 PDT |
Just a side question, but would you have to be transparent for this to work (if it were possible)? |
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Re: physics
From: mathisfun-ga on 01 Jun 2006 00:07 PDT |
I agree with elids that the only way it could work is if you were looking away from Earth, but even then you would also be seeing all other things in the direction of your movement at incresed time, as well as the earth in reverse time, so I'm not sure exactly what you would end of seeing. However if you were facing the earth I think the problem lies not in the ability of light to catch up but rather (even if you were transparent) the light would not be able be focused by your lens and reach your optic disc for you to be able to see/comprehend it. |
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Re: physics
From: oliverisfat-ga on 01 Jun 2006 12:52 PDT |
What is meant by "traveling the speed of light" or "traveling faster than the speed of light?" Assuming that this is meaning from the earth's reference frame, you get a paradox (explaining using Einstein's postulates why this is impossible as opposed to using relativistic energy). If you are going the speed of light, then you are in the photon's rest frame. However, going any speed, by the postulates set forth for relativity, we can say the light will be traveling the speed of light. So, if you are going the speed of light, somehow light traveling along with you is going the speed of light with respect to you. So basically, relativity falls apart at these speeds. That is why Star Trek is stupid. |
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Re: physics
From: epidavros-ga on 05 Jun 2006 03:40 PDT |
Unask the question. The problem with hypothetical discussions about things that cannot actually occur is that the hypothetical conclusions are meaningless. The speed of light (that is, the speed of any zero rest mass particle - it applies to things other than photons) is the same for all observers, however they are moving relative to one another. The first measurement to indicate this was carried out famously by Michelson and Morely in 1881 and 1887. Because this is the case, it is impossible for anything in nature to exceed the speed of light. As you supply energy to a particle to accelerate it towards the speed of light, instead of all of the energy going to speed it up, some of it causes its mass to increase. This effect is immeasurably small at low speeds, but very important as you get close to the speed of light. The relationship between mass and energy that this implies is given by the most famous equation in physics: E = m c (squared) So as you cannot ever exceed the speed of light you cannot reach parts of the universe in which you would be looking back at the earth as it was before you left - they are simply inaccessible. |
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Re: physics
From: the_iman-ga on 07 Jun 2006 19:36 PDT |
hay did u realise if we travel at speed of light we cant see the earth as the light wont be able to catch up 2 us ever unless we slow down and stop also we can never travel at speed of light as our matter will become will become unexisting. only way to travel at or faster than speed of light it to teleport |
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Re: physics
From: rising_iceberg-ga on 10 Jun 2006 03:53 PDT |
hey man i think what u r sayin is perfectly correct ur view will kind of halt at that coz whatever new is happening at earth is not reaching you in fact moving at the speed of light will disable ur ability to know about the earth coz no means of communication will work for u coz the fastest info can be transmitted is through encryption on EM waves which also propagate at the speed of light... yeh u know something i used to think the same thing when i was in 9th grade...gud to see memories refreshed... |
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Re: physics
From: rising_iceberg-ga on 10 Jun 2006 03:58 PDT |
hey epidavros pray dont try to extinguish the flame of curiosity man would ne'er have furthered had he not wondered...also i believe neverenoughtime realises your point when he states:"let's pretend we can travel at light or faster speeds".so thereis no need to unask the question...thx bye |
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Re: physics
From: kampator-ga on 10 Jul 2006 00:59 PDT |
Actually, though it's physically impossible to travel at the speed of light, you can consider it as a limit case. In this case, the speed would 'aproach' lightspeed. Actually, mechted mentioned an important thing, but didn't mention the implications. When you travel faster, time (relative to the object to which you compare your speed) will slow down, stopping if you reach light speed. This means that there will be no time for you to see the earth, or experience anything while you are traveling. This also means that when you stop, no time will have passed, and you will have experienced an instant translocation, or 'teleport'. For an observer on earth however, it will have taken time. So if you plan on traveling at light speed, there will be no possible way to stop (no time to press a button, and a timer won't run). But don't worry, you won't notice any of it. |
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