I'm a big Lee Marvin fan. Seen most of his movies and think he was the
best drunk, tough guy and all around butt kicker in the history of
film. Anyway, I always liked the tie Marvin wore to the Academy Awards
when he won the Oscar for Cat Ballou back in the 60's. I want to wear
one like it during my wedding ceremony this summer but I can't find
out what the heck they called this type of tie. It's not a bowtie,
it's not an ascot or a short tie, it just looks like a black triangle
of some sort.

See it at http://www.howardhallis.com/news/2006/leemarvin.gif

Anyone know what they call the kind of tie he's wearing in the photo
in the above link and where I could possibly get my hands on one?

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 02 Jun 2006 09:26 PDT

One formal attire specialist I spoke to said that it appears to be a
simple 1.5 inch wide black satin band made to fit under a laydown
collar shirt. She indicated that she didn't think this style has a
formal name but that an alteration shop can easily make one or can
remove the bow from a bow tie to achieve this same effect.

Is this sufficient as an answer?

tutuzdad-ga

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 02 Jun 2006 09:53 PDT

In light of your comment, shall we consider this one answered then?

tutuzdad-ga

There are places on-line where you can get custom-made ties so there
should be no probs!

(I'll leave it to a real researcher to dig these out.)

Will the choir be singing 'Wandrin' Star' when you lurch your way to the alter?

Have a Great Wedding!

All the Best

Bryan

Bryan, What is an ALTER?

Kemlo, an 'ALTER has several meanings but, in particular, it is a rope
that is used by a hangman to execute persons who have been condemned
to death by hanging.

I could have used a different NOUN (please check if you are unfamilar
with 'nouns') but it is too late to altar it now.

Really, this should have been a NEW QUESTION!

Bryan is just joshing with you

- he is alluding to a book by Kingsley Amis called 'The Alteration'

wrongdimensionboy-ga,

I don't think that's a tie. I think it's a black collar or band with
the white collar of his shirt folded over it so it looks like a
triangle.

- Hammer

I've talked to serveral formal attire professionals about your
question. This is apparently not a previously known or named style of
tie. All have said that their best guess is that Lee Marvin's "tie"
depicted in that photo was custom made.

tutuzdad-ga

Thanks for all the great comments and suggestions. I'm going to see a
tailor today and bring the photo and description tutuzdad wrote in
this posting. I appreciate all imput I got!

I'm going to see a tailor later this afternoon. If she can do it, I'll
consider this question answered... at least for me. I'll post what
happens some time tonight or tomorrow.

If she can't do it, I'll still be open to both suggestions on exactly
what type of tie or collar this is, what it's called, and where I can
get them (authentic or custom made).

They must have had a name for it since my dad wore a similar one at his wedding.

No kidding!

The tailor is going out of town, and cannot make the tie for me. Any
suggestions folks? I tried writing to some web based tie makers
(Bowtie.com and Tiecrafters.com) and neither has written me back.

Try an ecclesiastical outfitters?



KEMO