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Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: mpis11-ga List Price: $100.00 |
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09 Jun 2006 22:14 PDT
Expires: 09 Jul 2006 22:14 PDT Question ID: 736915 |
I have an invention that I have been thinking about for many years. I cant not say what it is at this time although maybe someone can help me.. Here is my question.. I need something either handheld or fixed but mobile that can launch a weight of 4-5 ounces at least 350 yards. This can not be any use of gun power, or explosive in anyway. I have thought about large sling shots and crossbows but at the weight of 4-5 ounces it would not work. I have thought about those water balloons launchers but this must be done with one person.. Is there a manufacture that makes a super strong sling shot type cord that would work? It also can not be longer than 3 feet as the idea I have has to be hand held or easy to carry around. Just need a simple not dangerous way that I can shoot or sling a item over 350 yards easy and safe? Any ideas? Please let me know if anyone has any ideas? | |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: probonopublico-ga on 10 Jun 2006 03:33 PDT |
It's a tall order. A golf ball (1.62 ounces) can 'only' be driven 247.86 m - without carry. See: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2004/CrystalCuevas.shtml Maybe you can summon Superman, if he lives near you? |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: mikewa-ga on 10 Jun 2006 04:33 PDT |
I agree with probonopublico: but do have a suggestion. What you need is a sysytem that can store more energy than can be produced in a single motion. What comes to mind is a wind-up crossbow or one of the medieval siege weapons like a trebuchet. In both cases you can keep adding more energy to the sytem over time, and release it all at once. |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: kemlo-ga on 10 Jun 2006 07:12 PDT |
Clay pidgeon launchers for shotguns might achieve a quarter of the distance required |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: elids-ga on 10 Jun 2006 10:06 PDT |
What you are asking for can't be done,like probono said you'd need Superman. To understand the amount of energy needed, the physics of it and why a man couldn't possibly exert that kind of energy into a bow or even a crossbow read this short document In HTML http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:YqMOQ8ZMiToJ:dvworld.northwestern.edu/class/mechanics/330presentations/ellen_olgagopan_archery/Presentation.ppt+amount+of+energy+in+a+crossbow&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5 In PPT http://dvworld.northwestern.edu/class/mechanics/330presentations/ellen_olgagopan_archery/Presentation.ppt |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: probonopublico-ga on 11 Jun 2006 23:08 PDT |
What about launching the weight from a suitable height, say, from a mountain? |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: guru_ga-ga on 16 Jun 2006 21:50 PDT |
According to your question, the system can use electricity. If it can be plugged in, then great! But you said, "mobile" which I suppose means battery-operated where electricity is concerned. Therefore, you need a battery and a large capacitor (or series of capacitors). The battery charges the capacitor(s) for a few minutes and then the capaictors run the motor in such a way that the motor accerates continuously. The reason for the capacitors is that you need to deliver a large amount of energy in a very short period of time. I haven't calculated what that is. Because of "drag" I don't thnk anybody will be able to tell you for sure. That's a matter for experimentation The machine is an electric motor driven spool. The spool is connected to a long (up to 100m) cord and simply reels in the cord. At the end of cord is a small "car" that carries the load. The car is low, light and stable (wide wheel base?) It could be a little chariot, I suppose. The load rests in the car but is nested inside a pocket. The pocket is directly attached to the cord. The pocket is lifted from the car as the cord is collected at the top edge of the vertically spinning spool and the car is quite low. The release of the load activates cute little breaks on teh car so that the car doesn't hit the machine at highspeed. I can't tell you how the breaks work at the moment -- no idea. After the loaded pocket leaves the car, the load sails smoothly through the air toward the spool because the motor/clutch combination is designed to cause the spool to continuously accelerate. When the pocket & load reach the spool, thanks to the pocket design, the load is released as the pocket changes trajectory as the pocket will follow the curve of teh spool. A break brings the high speed spool to a safe stop. Meanwhile, the load has been released and will only travel as far as its final velocity will take it. Clearly, you need to figure out how much battery power you need and how much capacitor capacity is required. You could use a flywheel to help get the load accelerated from a stand-still. The flywheel could be engaged via a clutch just to get the load moving and then disengaged so that the motor can take over. Of course, the flywheel is charged from the battery at teh same tim that the capacitors are charging. Come to think of it, a compressed air motor might work as well if a bottle of compressed air is sufficient and not too heavy. You said you didn't want anything explosive, but I don't think a compressed air motor can be deemed "explosive". A compressed air motor might be able to replace both the capacitors (of course) as well as teh flywheel. The key will be to have a smooth acceleration to the necessarly launching speed. This will of course be dangerous to anybody who gets in the way of the cord. But let's face, it this whole idea is dangerous no matter how safe you make it... Perhaps a 100m cord is not necessary. It all depends on the characteristics of the motor and the acceleration it is capable of achieving. The "car" might not be necessary if the pocket can be designed to be a stable sled for the intial part of the acceleration where the pocket has not yet lifted from the ground. Instead of a car, perhaps the pocket could start as a sled and then, take flight with the assistance of tiny wings. Of course, you never defined the 4-5 once load. Maybe it can serve itself as a car/sled/flight vehicle. I would love to see that work! |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: jenilocke-ga on 20 Jun 2006 08:06 PDT |
If the item you want to shoot is a ball shape, perhaps you could rig up something with two wheels laying side by side with a space just slightly smaller than the size of the object, which can roll down on a track of some kind, get caught between the wheels, and shot out the other side. I realize you will need a crank to turn the wheels, and it will probably be difficult to turn it that fast unlesss you work together a serries of gears, making the wheel actually turn several times faster than you could even hope to turn with your hand. You will ofcourse have to enclose the entire thing, and have the ball shoot out of a tube if you want to keep it safe for kids. I haven't tested this, but it at least it offers slightly more hope than the other answers that suggest it is impossible without superman. |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: knowitawe-ga on 22 Jun 2006 21:13 PDT |
An 18" helium filled balloon will lift 1.8 oz. and a 3' helium balloon will lift 12 oz. If you have a favorable wind and an appropriately sized ballon you can deliver your object 350 yards away. |
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Re: Shooting 4-5 ounce object to 350 yards
From: probonopublico-ga on 22 Jun 2006 21:57 PDT |
If a 4-5 ounce 'thing' should now land on my head, I will know where to come looking. |
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