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examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Visual Arts Asked by: alxtrzch-ga List Price: $12.00 |
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15 Jun 2006 11:14 PDT
Expires: 15 Jul 2006 11:14 PDT Question ID: 738453 |
"The Ambassadors" is a painting by Hans Holbein that uses a fairly conventional representational approach with the exception of a distorted skull that skews across the bottom of the canvas. This anamorphic figure is legible as a skull when the painting is viewed from an extreme oblique angle, but at that point, the rest of painting loses its intelligibility. Most anamorphic art is constructed upon a single vantage point. A good example is Andrea Pozzo's illusionistic dome at S. Ignazio. "The Ambassadors" on the other hand sets itself apart from other anamorphic works by the fact that it's impossible to legibly see both representations (the portrait of the ambassadors and the skull) simultaneously. I'm looking for other works of art -- not just painting but sculpture as well -- that use anamorphic techniques that are premised on multiple and competing vantage points. | |
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Re: examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
From: myoarin-ga on 16 Jun 2006 02:16 PDT |
I recall at least one painting (Vermeer?) with that has a convex mirror reflecting the appropriately distorted view. Does that count? I also seem to remember a painting that included an anamorphic image with a tubular mirror, but I am not so sure about this. Would any of Picasso's "distorted" works count? |
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Re: examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
From: alxtrzch-ga on 16 Jun 2006 06:55 PDT |
Good point. I think you're referring to "The Marriage of Giovanni Arnolfini and Giovanna Cenami" by Jan van Eyck. This has a convex mirror in the background which includes the backs of the couple and a self-portrait of van Eyck, all distorted according to the optical effects of a convex form. Though there are two different views within the same painting in this instance, it's all quite rational and cohesive. I'm more interested in works that require the extreme vantage points of anamorphosis (e.g., looking at a canvas or sculpture from a very skewed angle) but where when one thing becomes legible then something else distorts. In other words, works where the totality is intentionally never possible from a single point of view. An interesting example of sculptural anamorphosis is the Nanning Gateway by Denton Corker Marshall. If you're interested, images can be found here under "infrastructure": http://www.dentoncorkermarshall.com/projects.aspx The cohesive image of the two roadside flowers is available at only one point. It's an illusion (spatial anamorphosis) that becomes apparent as one passes by and one of the flowers fragments. Another example is the MoMA QNS sign by Michael Maltzan (which has a kind of cubist fragmentation, even when seen from the ideal point of view). But still in both the examples, there's the one vantage point -- the "sweet spot" from which the total view is cohesive. (Incidentally, it's worth pointing out that this spot in the MoMA QNS project is only available in motion from the elevated train that passes by, which I think is a beautiful way of undercutting the stasis of traditional anamorphic representation.) Regarding your comment about tubular mirrors -- yes, there are a number of paintings that are distorted in such a way that when a tubular or conical mirror is placed on the surface, then the representation becomes legible. Again, these are always based on one ideal view. I did however just visit Chicago's Millenium Park, where Anish Kapoor's "Cloud Gate" is a kind of large-scale version of this phenomenon. However here he uses a shape reminiscent of a jelly bean, and the effect is closer to a fun house mirror rather than having any clear anamorphic/perspectival agenda. Regarding Picasso's distorted views, my take is that Cubism generally broke away from rational perspective, and therefore doesn't fit within the anamorphic model in which I'm currently interested. Hopefully this helps clarify what I'm after. Thanks again for the input. |
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Re: examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
From: myoarin-ga on 19 Jun 2006 04:53 PDT |
Yes, of course, van Eyck. I understand what you are looking for, and a bit better on sculpture with the picture of the Nanning Gateway, thanks (though it still escapes me). Perhaps this site suggests a search approach, but it does indeed seem that few artists combined anamorphic images with normal perspective. http://www.aip.org/pnu/2000/split/pnu474-3.htm Al Seckel may be someone who can help you: http://www.illusionworks.com/ The references on this site may be of help, though I expect that you are close enough to the subject to have explored them already: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/artofanamorphosis/exhibition/index.html I saw the 1998 exhibit on anamorphosis in the National Gallery in London, hence my seemed recollection that there was an image for tubular mirrors included in a painting with normal perspective. Maybe some of Escher's earlier works qualify (no images): http://www.fdavidpeat.com/bibliography/essays/escher.htm But here are Escher pictures: http://www.mcescher.com/ Istvan Orosz could be of interest, click on images and enlarge them: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/8716/ This is interesting, but only mixes perspective by being a painted image in a larger structure: http://bridge.skyline.net/features/angel.html Here is someone else who may be able to help: http://users.telenet.be/thomasweynants/opticaltoys-ana.html This site mentions several contemporary artists that have used anamorphosis: http://www.asu.edu/cfa/art/people/faculty/collins/Anamorph.html Dali's surrealism includes some anamorphic images one site said. I am sure that you don't need references - and may disregard his work for your purpose. It's been interesting, but I am afraid not much help. Cheers |
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Re: examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
From: alxtrzch-ga on 20 Jun 2006 19:47 PDT |
Thanks. These are all great resources. I wasn't familiar with the work of István Orosz, and actually the stair painting/drawing is exactly the sort of project I've been looking for: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/8716/stairs.html The syntax of the work (the inability for a single viewer to legibly perceive both images simultaneously) is great. Just what I needed. Much thanks. |
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Re: examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
From: myoarin-ga on 22 Jun 2006 05:12 PDT |
Hi, Glad that my comment was of some use. The motorcyle sculpture is really intriguing. I would assume that someone viewing the sculpture from the source of the light against a light background (where the shadow appears) would see the silhouette of the bike - obviously more apparent if the sculpture is not lit from the observer's side. Flood it with light, and he might not recognized this as his eye focuses on the sculpture, and certainly not as he moves his eye from the proper place, then seeing through the sculpture in places that detract from the silhouette of the bike. The "Beethon" sculpture in Bonn, Germany, might interest you. Search Google images with beethon and you will get immediately 30 images of this interesting work. The most informative sites are in German, but here is one with a English text: http://www.lvbeethoven.com/MeetLvB/GermanyBonnBeethonBeethovenhalle.html Here is a neat site. When you click on "start" under the photo, the image changes. http://www.klaus-kammerichs.de/beethon.html If you have questions about the German text on a site, I can help you. |
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Re: examples of anamorphic art with multiple viewpoints
From: myoarin-ga on 26 Jul 2006 06:56 PDT |
Hi alxtrzch-ga, I don't know if you will ever come back here, since the notification system is down, but I found another painting on this site: http://www.aiwaz.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=51 Scroll down to the "anonymous portrait of Edvard VI" and click on it. See also the bibiliography at the end of the site. Cheers, Myoarin |
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