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Q: Searching for the tittles of 2 movies (prod. before 1990) probably US or German ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: Searching for the tittles of 2 movies (prod. before 1990) probably US or German
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Movies and Film
Asked by: chikitaz-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 24 Jun 2006 14:16 PDT
Expires: 24 Jul 2006 14:16 PDT
Question ID: 740803
MOVIE #1: During the married couples vacation woman/wife falls in love
with some guy ending up intimate with him. But, turns out that husband
hired this guy to seduce his wife and watched their affair on hidden
camera. At the beginning wife did not now anything about it and
felling guilty after having intercourse with that guy asked her
husband to leave right away. But husband hesitated and instead later
on "sent" her another "client" to seduce her again. The guy who had
sex with her at first fell in love with her and confessed about his
agreement with her husband, but at this point wife did not care
because she started liking this type of treatment from her husband.
Guy could not convince her to go with him and stayed there
heartbroken. Movie ends with the scene where the couple leaves the
place, husband sitting in car (front passenger seat) while his wife
with two other (new) men (sailors or captains) sit in the back seat of
the car. This movie might be US or German as far as I remember. Exact
title of this movie would be appreciated along with the year and
country of production.

Movie #2: probably German. Again somewhere on vacation man sees a
woman and gets very attracted to her. At he beginning they have a nice
romance but turns out that he wants to be a "servant" for her. For
example he drives her to some guy and after she is done having sex
with that guy he picks her up and brings her back. One time, while
driving in the car, some big beard motorcyclist guy pays attention to
her and later on shows animal interest to this woman and treats her
like a real slut. He also realizes that this guy is a servant for her
and humiliates him as well. At some point in the movie he feels
neglected and starts arguing with her about the situation but she made
it clear that since thats what he initially wanted thats how it is
going to be. I don?t quite remember the ending but again title, year
and country of production would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 24 Jun 2006 14:59 PDT
I have identified the second movie (a German-Italian-British
co-production, by the way), but the first one is a mystery to me. I'm
doing more research, but if neither I nor any of my colleagues manage
to identify the first movie, would you like me to post what I have as
an answer?


Clarification of Question by chikitaz-ga on 24 Jun 2006 15:22 PDT
First thank you for such a prompt response. I would really need the
first one as well. i was willing to pay 10 buck per each movie, I just
included both of them in one question and summed up the price as well.

If you are not able to identify first one, still post the answer but
please give me some references of movies that are in the same ganre as
the onec I described. Any movie reference would be appreciated.
Waiting for the post.

Thank you

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 24 Jun 2006 16:06 PDT
I will do my best. For now, I will go on trying to identify the first
movie. Should I fail, I'll follow your suggestion and provide
references to similar films.


Clarification of Question by chikitaz-ga on 25 Jun 2006 10:14 PDT
Sounds great.

Clarification of Question by chikitaz-ga on 25 Jun 2006 19:54 PDT
Would that be possible to charge me $20 and get the tittle of the
second movie. Then, when you have an answer for the first one and some
reference movies you can email me those too.


Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 26 Jun 2006 11:49 PDT
I am sorry for not responding to your last comment earlier. I spent
the day in a library, searching the film encyclopedias for relevant
entries. While I still have no clue what the first movie may be, I
have found other interesting information. I will do some additional
research now, and in two hours or so I will post an answer.

Subject: Re: Searching for the tittles of 2 movies (prod. before 1990) probably US or German
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 26 Jun 2006 14:28 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Dear chikitaz,

The description you provided for the plot of the second film appeared
familiar to me when I read it. I soon found out the reason why:
Basically, it's the plot of "Venus in Furs" (original German title:
"Venus im Pelz"), a novel written in 1870 by Austrian author Leopold
von Sacher-Masoch (1836-1895).

Von Sacher-Masoch is an important figure in literature and psychology:
Masochism - the urge to submit oneself to a dominant person and
getting humiliated for one's own sexual satisfaction - was named after
him. His novel "Venus in Furs" prototypically illustrates the idea and
principle of masochism. The novel was picturised three times, but all
three versions were very different, so I had to do research to find
out what specific movie version of "Venus in Furs" complies with your

The result was that only a 1969 film directed by Italian director
Massimo Dallamano meets the specifications. The movie was a
German-British-Italian co-production, starring Laura Antonelli and
Régis Vallée. Unfortunately, this movie is currently not available as
a DVD or VHS in Europe or the USA, with the exception of illegal
bootlegs that show up from time to time at places like Ebay.

For details about the cast and crew of this film, please have a look
at its Internet Movie Database entry:

As I mentioned before, three movies exist that are based on the novel
"Venus in Furs", so there are two more films you might be interested

In 1967, Spanish director Jesus "Jess" Franco made the novel a film.
Among cineasts, Franco is a notorious phenomenon. He is a specialist
for ultra-cheap, hastily-made exploitation and horror movies. In terms
of quality, he is something like a Spanish Ed Wood; but he knows what
people want to see - sex and violence -, so his films make money
despite being incredibly bad. Franco's rather loose adaption of "Venus
in Furs", starring James Darren (!), Klaus Kinski and Maria Rohm, is
more sleazy and, surprisingly, more surreal than Dallamano's later
attempt. You can read more cast an crew details here:

You will be delighted to hear that this version is currently available
in the USA, even from, at $17.99:

Finally, there is a Dutch version of "Venus in Furs" that is
considerably younger that the other two. It was made in 1994, directed
by Victor Nieuwenhuijs and Maartje Seyferth. It is a much acclaimed
stylised and sophisticated modern adaption of the novel that makes
certain changes to details of the original plot, adding new aspects,
while not altering the basic concept.

Unfortunately, this version is currently not available in the USA. But
in case you have access to a multi-region DVD player that will play
European PAL system DVDs, you might want to consider purchasing the
German DVD from It features not only the dubbed German
version, but also an English soundtrack (together with a Dutch, French
and Spanish soundtrack):

For more information about masochism (and sado-masochism) in film and
fiction, this article in the Wikipedia encyclopedia might prove
interesting; it features a list of films where masochism is part of
the plot:

Best regards,


Wikipedia: Leopold von Sacher-Masoch

Wikipedia: Jesus Franco

Vampyria: Venus in Furs

Request for Answer Clarification by chikitaz-ga on 26 Jun 2006 22:37 PDT
thank you for a useful information. i am satisfied with the response.
Do you need some kind of approval to process the charge? If so, then i
approve. Otherwise let me know if anything is needed from my side.

If you identtify somehow the first movie it would be great, otherwise
its ok too. You did a great job. Thank you. Next time I have a
question I hope you will be the one who will research it.


Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 27 Jun 2006 06:51 PDT
I'm glad to know you like my answer; thank you very much. And you
don't have to approve the answer, as that is done automatically.

chikitaz-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
researcher is very honest, knowledgeable and does research very
promptly. I highly recommend him.

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