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Subject:
Blue-ish Distortion on Opening/Closing Credits of Star Trek TNG, DS9, and VOY
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Television Asked by: nathan1701-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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24 Jun 2006 22:18 PDT
Expires: 24 Jul 2006 22:18 PDT Question ID: 740872 |
During the part of the opening (specifically, where there is only text and stars) and ending credits of Star Trek The Next Generation, as well as the ending credits of Deep Space 9 and Voyager there is a blue-ish tint on the left edge of the screen almost as if light is seeping in onto the film. The only mention of it that I could find via google was in this forum: http://forums.dvdfile.com/showthread.php?t=27677 I'd like to know the following: 1. What caused this distortion? (I would like specifics, not just a single sentence answer like "It's a product of early special effects techniquies") 2. Was it present in the original tv episodes or is it just on the dvds? (I seem to recall it being there, perhaps not as evident, but I am unsure.) Optionally, I would be curious to know: 3. Why do you think Paramount didn't fix this fairly obvious problem when releasing the series onto dvds? 4. Are there other series that have this same problem other than the ones that I mentioned? Look at the link below for a screenshot I made of what I am referring to: http://novae-res.org/colortint.jpg Thanks! |
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Re: Blue-ish Distortion on Opening/Closing Credits of Star Trek TNG, DS9, and VO
From: qed100-ga on 25 Jun 2006 14:06 PDT |
Hi, I don't recall noticing this in the past, and I have no Trek episodes at my disposal to consult on my own. So I'll have to ask a question. Is the background image identical in all instances that it appears? If so, then my guess would be that it's a single shot which was prepared early in the production of Next Generation, and then used repeatedly not only in Next Gen', but also in spinoff series. It then becomes plausible that there was a technical "error" comitted by the effects house which created that shot. Next Gen' was initially produced not less than twenty years ago, and at that time effects were still generated using what I call "classical" techniques, which is to say, pre-CGI, all on film from the get-go. (CGI was in use to some extent at that time, but it was still less than photo-realistic.) It's possible (though I can by no means gaurantee this) that as the layers of moving star elements were laid onto the image in successive exposures, the film itself was inadvertently allowed to be exposed to ambient light outside the protective opaque body of the effects camera. If this is the case, then the undeveloped negative would be largely safe for a brief period of time as long as it remained tightly wound. But there would've been some clouding of the emulsion near the edge which was fully exposed to the light. If this is what actually happened, I can easily see the shot being deemed usable once it was developed and the clouding found to be no greater than what is present. |
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Re: Blue-ish Distortion on Opening/Closing Credits of Star Trek TNG, DS9, and VO
From: nathan1701-ga on 25 Jun 2006 22:56 PDT |
qed100: You were correct. After comparing the first frame of the ending credits of TNG, DS9, and Voyager I have found that there are a few constant background stars that do not move throughout the entire credits which are identical in all three series. In my naivety I assumed that they would have made new shots for each series, but I imagine it's far more simple today to whip up a moving star field than it was 15+ years ago. I watched quite a bit of syndicated TNG on television and I don't think I noticed the blue tint until after I saw it on the dvds. Perhaps the transfer to dvd made it more visible? Supposedly they were "digitally enhanced" but considering how easy it was to mess with the brightness / contrast / etc.. in photoshop to make the tint disappear completely I have a hard time believing they put a lot of effort into it. Either that or they spent so much time cleaning up the actual film that they ignored the credits completely [Yeah right ;-)] Regarding what caused it originally, I'm no film expert but what you've told me makes sense, though I don't profess to understand it completely. Would what you describe account for the fact that only one edge of the film is effected? Thanks for your answer! |
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