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Subject:
gravity water valve
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: puravida77-ga List Price: $7.00 |
Posted:
08 Oct 2002 14:37 PDT
Expires: 07 Nov 2002 13:37 PST Question ID: 74157 |
I wish to know if there is anything on the market similar to this: a valve for holding in liquid until a container is near perfectly upside down. Here is a scenario: a cap that would go on a milk jug so that the milk only comes out when the jug is almost exactly upside down (as opposed to tilted a little). In essence, I need a type of valve that could work in the previous example to open only when it is almost exaclty inverted. Otherwise, it is water tight. The valve must be simple and cheap and keep all fluid inside the container up until the jug is almost exactly inverted. Also, the valve must be able to be re-used over and over with no pieces that need to be replaced each time. The valve (and not the method of affixing it to, or on, the jug) is my main concern. Please don't hesitate to ask clarifying questions. Thanks! | |
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Re: gravity water valve
From: fj-ga on 09 Oct 2002 02:02 PDT |
Is the container always of the same volume? Is the liquid always of the same density (eg, is it always water?) Is the initial volume of the liquid always the same? Once the valve is open do you want the valve to remain open irespective of the attitude (angle) of the container or do you want the valve to close again if the container is tilted off vertical again? I'm thinking along the lines of a spring operated valve which once the full weight of the liquid comes to bear, the force of the spring keeping the valve closed is overcome and hence opens onto a latch which keeps it open. This would only work however if you wanted an 'once open always open' type valve. Also, what sort of size container are you thinking about - Baby beaker? Water cooler? |
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Re: gravity water valve
From: cunperdition-ga on 05 Nov 2002 11:26 PST |
I had a need for a very similiar valve when I was trying to find effective ways to remove sediment from beer, however my valve had to close again whenever a small deviation from vertical was made. After many clumsy attempts at a mechanical gravity valve I found a simple, effective, cheap solution by building a simple mercury switch and attaching it to cheap off the shelf electric consumer sprinkler valves. When vertical, the mercury comleted a circuit between two contacts and closed a 50 cent relay connected to a 5 dollar radioshack dc power supply that switched 20 cheap sprinkler valves to allow sediment to flow out of inverted bottles. To stop the flow, rotate the bottle rack with the mercury switch on the end. Worked like a charm, cheap, reliable, scalable, and easy to implement-no precision machining or anything, didn't even have to tweak the switch, worked first try (although that may have been luck). If it turns out to be a little too touchy it would be easy to add some capacitance to the circuit to prevent shut offs when the water is being dumped. - -------------------------------- - --- / / + -----\ /---------------- + ---/ ||------|| valve || || \| |/ cont-> +__/\__+ <- contact switch-- ridge in middle to help mercury flatten touching both contacts, if not vert, mercury balls up and no circuit exists. |
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Re: gravity water valve
From: cunperdition-ga on 05 Nov 2002 11:39 PST |
I realized I miss read your need for a shutoff after x amount of water has been dumped, hopefully this will calrify, I think the same idea would work, you could easily build oscilatory circuit that shut off valve after a certian amount of time had elapsed, chances are if the water is being dumped into similiar containers or is subject to no back pressure, you could obtain very accurate filling volumes with a timed circuit, if the backpressure/flowrate is going to be variable then a ballcock type float switch inside the big jug (look inside your toliet:) set up in an AND circuit w/ the mercury switch could provide the desired effect strictly based on volume rather than time. |
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Re: gravity water valve
From: inventus-ga on 10 Dec 2003 18:42 PST |
Hi, Try shopping for one of those nice thingamjigs they use on the booze bottles in bars, they come in various forms, some of which might just do what you want! (Seems the question has expired, so I guess I'll have to go without those 7 bucks ;) A-) |
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