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Q: History Stuff ( No Answer,   7 Comments )
Subject: History Stuff
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion
Asked by: dprk007-ga
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Posted: 28 Jun 2006 17:58 PDT
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Question ID: 741899
During the reign of HENRY VII  (Please note not Henry the eight) what was the
breakdown by percentage of what faiths people were in ENGLAND,
SCOTLAND , WALES and IRELAND(Catholic, presbyterian, jewish, atheist,
Muslim etc)


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Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Jun 2006 03:08 PDT
The reign of Henry VII (1485-1509) predates Protestantism in England
(Calvinism, Presbyterians).
Edward I expelled all Jews from England in 1290.  This may not have
been 100% effective, but in Henry VII's time, persecution of Jews was
common (expelled from Spain in 1492 and subsequently badly
persecuted), so it can be expected that any Jews remaining in England
kept a very low profile, also because it was not until Cromwell that
Jews were allowed back into England in the mid 1600s.
This BBC site and others indicate that Muslims were first present in
England in the 16th century:

Open atheists were also not tolerated in those times, accused of blasphemy: 

I doubt that there are any statistics on what you ask, indeed, that
there is any record of persons of those faiths living in England
during that time.
Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: dprk007-ga on 29 Jun 2006 16:34 PDT
Hi Myoarin

Very Interesting comment. It would seem that ENgland ,Scotland,
Ireland and Wales were 100 % Catholic  (not always voluntary of

Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: pinkfreud-ga on 29 Jun 2006 16:39 PDT
I've done a lot of reading about the Tudor period, and I believe
Myorin is right on target (as usual). Although there almost certainly
were freethinkers and those who espoused religions other than
Catholicism, they'd have kept mum about their beliefs if they valued
their lives.
Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: pinkfreud-ga on 29 Jun 2006 16:46 PDT
I apologize for misspelling Myoarin's name in my comment above. My
fingers are not very smart today, and they keep making typographical
errors that my brain is too addled to notice.
Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Jun 2006 17:43 PDT
Hmmm, kinda nice, actually.  Suddenly reminded me of Eeyore.
"Eeyore, a very gloomy, blue-gray donkey, is stuffed with sawdust.
Despite this, Eeyore is a very intelligent animal, although he keeps
most of his knowledge to himself. That's why he is very quiet most of
the time and a bit depressed."

Well, the "stuffed with sawdust" is applicable.  ;)
Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: tutuzdad-ga on 29 Jun 2006 17:53 PDT
" The old grey donkey, Eeyore stood by himself in a thistly corner of
the Forest, his front feet well apart, his head on one side, and
thought about things. Sometimes he thought sadly to himself, "Why?"
and sometimes he thought, "Wherefore?" and sometimes he thought,
"Inasmuch as which?" and sometimes he didn't quite know what he was
thinking about. "

-- from "The Pooh Book of Quotations" by A. A. Milne
Subject: Re: History Stuff
From: thursdaylast23-ga on 30 Jun 2006 07:41 PDT
Yes, I'd agree that during the period in question, in "official"
terms, everyone was Catholic, and that there are few "official"
records of dissenters, except perhaps in the 24 people executed for
"heresy" during the reign of Henry VII. However, you'd have to dig up
the original court records of the examinations (if they're available)
to find out what constituted "heresy" in each case: 

There are written records remaining of people's opposition to official
state religion and adherence to other beliefs (letters, diaries,
"unofficial" pamphlets, court examinations, works smuggled out of
England and published abroad, etc.), some of which are in internet
databases, but not in the form of the regularized statistics you seek.
Religions outside the state church weren't alternatives: they were
treason (as was practicing Catholicism in the later Tudor period).

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