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Subject: can I upgrade to visual studio 2005 tools for office from Pro version?
Category: Computers > Programming
Asked by: reubenleeb-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 10 Jul 2006 11:32 PDT
Expires: 13 Jul 2006 14:50 PDT
Question ID: 744989
can I upgrade to visual studio 2005 tools for office from 
visual studio 2005 Professional?

Or is there an add-in that will let me develope 
for Office Apps specifically outlook 2003?

Or Do I need to purchase both and install both? Can I install Both?

HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clarification of Question by reubenleeb-ga on 10 Jul 2006 11:39 PDT
Basically I need the functionality that Tools for Office ver provides.

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 10 Jul 2006 14:12 PDT
Hi reubenleeb,

Following is the only mention that I can find regarding whether or not
to have VS 2005 on the machine when VSTO (Visual Studio Tools for
Office) is installed. It indicates that VS should be installed before
installing VSTO.

Here is the order of installing s/w if you want to install VSTO2005-
1. Win XP SP2
2. VS.NET 2003 (if u want)
3. Office 2003
4. Office 2003 SP1
5. VS 2005 or .NET FW 2.0
6. VSTO 2005
http://www.codecomments.com/archive359-2006-1-746790.html

At any rate, read all of the following instructions before attempting
to do anything.

How to: Install Visual Studio Tools for the Microsoft Office System
Read the prerequisites and the order of installation very carefully.
If you install the required products in a different order, you might
not be able to use Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for the Microsoft
Office System successfully.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_wrcore/html/wrconInstallingWhiteRabbit.asp

How to: Install Visual Studio Tools for Office 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/54ds2za4.aspx

Visual Studio Tools for the Microsoft Office System 
How to: Install the Visual Studio Tools for Office Runtime  
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178739.aspx

Installation and New Project QuickStarts for Visual Studio Tools for
the Microsoft Office System
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_vsto2003_ta/html/vstoqsinst.asp

Does this answer your question?

Regards,
hummer

Clarification of Question by reubenleeb-ga on 10 Jul 2006 14:59 PDT
Hello.

Thx.  This answers my 1st question...

..but what about:

"Or is there an add-in that will let me develope 
for Office Apps specifically outlook 2003?

Or Do I need to purchase both and install both? Can I install Both?"

The basic question here is:  If I can use Visual Studio 2005 Pro to develope
Outlook 2003 add-ins, do I even need Visual Studio 2005 TOOLS FOR OFFICE (VSTO)
to develope add-ins for Outlook 2003?  If I NEED VSTO 2005 for this, what does
VSTO 2005 offer that VS 2005 Pro Does not?

Clarification of Question by reubenleeb-ga on 10 Jul 2006 14:59 PDT
...actually you DID answer the "Can I install both? question...
Just not the prev.

thx.

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 10 Jul 2006 19:31 PDT
Hi reubenleeb,

Visual Studio 2005 Product Line Comparison Chart
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/products/compare/default.aspx

Visual Studio Tools for Office 2005 Overview
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/tour/vs2005_guided_tour/VS2005pro/Smart_Client/VSTO_Overview.htm

What VSTO Does
VSTO 2005 allows you to build managed add-ins for Outlook 2003 (and
later) using VB.NET or C#. The VSTO 2005 package for Outlook add-ins
consists of:
 * A runtime component
 * An add-in loader that creates the add-in's AppDomain and handles
security and some other add-in essentials
 * A solution structure that includes both the add-in project itself
and a setup project to ease deployment
 * An extensible ThisApplication class with simple Startup and
Shutdown events where developers start adding their code.
Compared with using other platforms for creating Outlook add-ins, VSTO
2005 provides these advantages:
 * Better debugging experience at design time
 * Better error handling at run time
 * Graceful add-in shutdown without the need to explicitly manage all
COM object references
 * Simple Startup and Shutdown events
 * Separate AppDomain for each add-in (so that your add-in doesn't
stomp on another)
 * Stronger security, based on the .NET Code Access Security paradigm
 * Integrated deployment project in the add-in solution
 * Support for server-based add-in deployment
What VSTO does not do is extend Outlook's programmability features..."
http://www.outlookcode.com/vsto/index.htm

VSTO Video
This video provides an overview of Visual Studio 2005 Tools for
Microsoft Office (VSTO 2005), which provides enhanced capabilities to
integrate with and extend Microsoft Word 2003 and Microsoft Excel
2003. The video shows a Word project and highlights the power of the
IDE in hosting an instance of Word within the IDE. During the video, a
stock quote Document action is created that inserts a paragraph of
stock quote information within the document by consuming a web
service.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/tour/vs2005_guided_tour/VS2005pro/Smart_Client/VSTOVideoOverview.htm

Demos - Writing Outlook Add-ins using Visual Studio Tools for Office 2005
http://weblogs.asp.net/paulballard/archive/2006/06/21/Tech-Ed-06-Demo-Code---Writing-Outlook-Add-ins-using-Visual-Studio-Tools-for-Office-2005.aspx

Microsoft Visual Studio Tools for Office 2005
Price: 	$720.01
[see description]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BT7FSA/qid=1152579494/sr=8-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-4468417-1593411?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=229534

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In regards to installing VSTO, I can't quite get a handle on it. I found this...

VSTO and Visual Basic
"That brings me to my second problem with VSTO: You have to buy it
already integrated into a full copy of VS 2005! And there are a few
other problems too. For example, if you already have a copy of Visual
Studio 2005 Professional, it's not there! (Unless it's the MSDN
version. Why do we have all these confusing SKU's now anyway?) You
have to buy a full upgrade to get it! And this also means that you get
the specific configuration of Visual Studio that includes VSTO. What
if you would rather have one of the other configurations?"
http://visualbasic.about.com/b/a/256756.htm

...but I can't confirm anywhere that the Upgrade contains VSTO.

Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition Upgrade $549.00
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/

I don't know, perhaps someone else knows better than I, but it looks
to me like you'll have to buy the full version of VSTO.

"I have done exactly the opposite of what you say: first installed VS
2005 Pro and then installed VSTO. It works just fine. It seems that
the IDE loads all the available components, even if they don't belong
to the same installation process."
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=527650&SiteID=1

It seems a bit ridiculous, to make you pay for another whole full
version. The only alternative I found is this (it's risky):

"Start using the next version of VSTO and Office today
You've probably seen that the Beta 2 of Office 2007 is now available. 
The VSTO team has also made a "Customer Technology Preview" or CTP
available of the next version of VSTO that will support Office 2007.
First you need to get Office 2007 Beta 2:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/beta/getth ebeta.mspx 
Then go get the VSTO 'v3' CTP for Office 2007 Beta 2--this is an
add-on that installs on top of an existing VS 2005 install:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?fa
milyid=68978824-CA55-4208-A55E-5C4858183B31&displa ylang=en

"As with any pre-release software, you should not install the Visual
Studio Tools for Office ?v3? CTP on a production machine. Uninstalling
this CTP might not bring your computer back to its original state.
Hence, you are encouraged to either set up a separate computer for
this purpose, or create a backup image of your computer, before
installing any of the software referenced here. Alternatively, use a
Virtual PC."
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=68978824-CA55-4208-A55E-5C4858183B31&displaylang=en

I'm not posting this as an answer because I'm not positive that you
need the full version of VSTO, although I think so. Perhaps another
researcher can pull it all together for you and post an answer with
evidence one way or the other, that would be ok with me.

Regards,
hummer

Clarification of Question by reubenleeb-ga on 11 Jul 2006 00:04 PDT
Actually, this does help a bit.

Seems as though you have to buy BOTH versions even though they are
almost the EXACT same product outside of one including support for
outlook with that version dropping support for everything else.

yicks.

Thx.

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 11 Jul 2006 03:20 PDT
Me again. I had been working under the assumption that you already
have VS 2005 Pro. Do you? If not, VSTO's full version is a stand alone
product.

How to: Install Visual Studio Tools for Office 
"Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Tools for the Microsoft Office System is
available to install by itself as a complete development environment.
It is also included as part of the Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Team
System products. The prerequisites and installation steps are
different depending on whether you install Visual Studio Tools for
Office as a stand-alone product or as part of the Visual Studio Team
System...
The following software is required to install Visual Studio Tools for
Office by itself:
  * One of the following editions of Microsoft Office 2003. Service
Pack 1 (SP1) is also required with whichever edition you choose...
    o Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003.
    o Microsoft Office Professional Enterprise Edition 2003.
    o Microsoft Office Excel 2003.
    o Microsoft Office Word 2003.
    o Microsoft Office Outlook 2003.*
    o Microsoft Office Professional Edition 2003 Trial.
    o Microsoft Office System Evaluation 2003 Enterprise Edition.
  * The version of Outlook that is included with Microsoft Exchange
Server client access licenses is not supported.
  * The Office 2003 primary interop assemblies, installed in the
Windows global assembly cache (GAC). For more information, see How to:
Install Office Primary Interop Assemblies and Office Primary Interop
Assemblies.
  * Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) must be installed as part of Office.

Will look forward to your reply,
hummer

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 11 Jul 2006 03:20 PDT
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/54ds2za4.aspx

Clarification of Question by reubenleeb-ga on 11 Jul 2006 09:47 PDT
Actually, Yes...I already VS 2005 Pro.

That's why the concern with having to buy 
ANOTHER copy just to get the Office support.

I thank you for your help.  I will try and call Microsoft again. (Who could'nt
give me a stratight answer.)(grin)

Thx again.
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