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Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
Category: Sports and Recreation > Team Sports Asked by: nelson-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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10 Jul 2006 19:22 PDT
Expires: 09 Aug 2006 19:22 PDT Question ID: 745144 |
How many members of the 2006 World Cup French team are actually of French ethnicity? |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
Answered By: keystroke-ga on 10 Jul 2006 21:40 PDT Rated: |
The quickest answer would be that almost none of them are! Most are from French colonies in Africa or the Caribbean. There are seven who are of French descent, seven from countries in Africa, seven from Caribbean countries and two from South America. Those who are of African descent: Jean-Alain Boumsong is from Cameroon. Patrick Vieira was born in Senegal. Claude Makélélé--Zaire Vikash Dhorasoo is Indo-Mauritian (but was born in France) Sidney Govou-- Benin in West Africa Zinedine Zidane-- Algerian Alou Diarra, Senegal descent Caribbean: William Gallas, from Guadeloupe. Éric Abidal is from Martinique. Sylvain Wiltord, also of Guadeloupian descent. Thierry Henry is of Antillean, with his father from Guadeloupe and his mother from Martinique. Louis Saha, with Guadeloupian parents. Lilian Thuram, born in Guadeloupe Pascal Chimbonda, born in Guadeloupe South America: Florent Malouda-- French Guiana David Trézéguet-- Argentinian Those who are of French descent: Mickaël Landreau Mikael Silvestre Fabien Barthez Gaël Givet Willy Sagnol Franck Ribéry Grégory Coupet Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_national_football_team |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: thither-ga on 10 Jul 2006 19:44 PDT |
Well, all the players on the team, except for three, were born in France (if this is what you are asking). Please see http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/worldcup/2006/teams/fra/roster.html I hope this helps. Have a good day. |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: nelson-ga on 10 Jul 2006 20:04 PDT |
No, that's not what I asked. Ethnicity has nothing to do with where one is born. Many of the French players are clearly of African descent. They are not ethnically French. |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: myoarin-ga on 11 Jul 2006 06:08 PDT |
Just a slight correction to the answer: France has long since included its former colonies as an integral part of the French Republic, as the Departement d'outre-mer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Overseas_Departments |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: landreau-ga on 15 Jul 2006 20:08 PDT |
"ethnithically" French is a question that doesn't make sense because you can only be of an ethnic race. If you'd like to know who was BORN in France then ask that, because that makes more sense. I know Michael Landreau is French but that's all. |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: nelson-ga on 16 Jul 2006 14:05 PDT |
landreau-ga, that makes no sense. Being born in France may make one French in citizenship, but not in blood. I am American (citizenship) of Portuguese (ethnic) descent. |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: myoarin-ga on 16 Jul 2006 15:17 PDT |
Aha, Nelson, now we know! But seriously, that is one of the differences between much of Europe and the USA: over here, nationality still is often equated with "natus", birth of native parentage. Okay, in Germany and France and elsewhere, there are lots of people with foreign surnames, but if they speak the language like a native and have a European surname and don't look "foreign" they are accepted, whether they or their parents immigrated or they proudly know that their ancestors have been in the country for hundreds of years. But if they look foreign, ...? Well, it is sort of like the race line used to be in the States. But in the States, everyone - I think/hope - accepts that someone is an "American" if he or she is a citizen, regardless of how they look. That probably wasn't PC. |
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Re: Franch National Footbal (Soccer) Team
From: jeremiecl-ga on 27 Jul 2006 07:09 PDT |
Hi, Ethnicity is not a very good concept for France as there are no "ethnic Americans". As French nationality is acquired by the fact that you were born in France, many French people have foreign origins. 30 to 40% have indeed foreign grand-parents, but throughout history, there have been many immigration waves. 1 - Most recents immigration waves were from Poland (end of 19th century), Italy (because of fascism in the 30's), Spain (because of Franco's dictatorship, in the 30's as well), Algeria/Morroco/Tunisia (former colonies) and Black Western African French-speaking countries (Senegal, Cote d'Ivoire, Centrafrique, Zaire, Congo etc. also former colonies except Zaire which was Belgian). There are also some Asian, most coming from Vietnam/Cambodia in the 70'-80's, fleeing the wars there. They all came to France to work were the French people did not want to work : mines, factories etc. But they all had children who became French and then got married, sometimes of course to French people with older French origins, had children themselves etc. Therefore they modified what you would call "French ethnicity", meaning European-French. Among the most brilliant people from France, you have Marie Curie, who received two Nobel prizes and discovered radioactivity ; Raymond Kopa / Michel Platini / Zinedine Zidane, the best football players of the world at their time (1950's, 1980', 2000's) ; Alexandre Dumas author of the 3 Musketeers ; Nicolas Sarkozy, (may be) the next French president. - Curie was born in Poland and got married to a French guy (Pierre Curie). - Raymon Kopa's real name is Kopalowski (Polish) - Michel Platini is obsiouly from Italy (his father, Aldo emigrated from Italy) - Zinedine Zidane's parents came from Algeria, but he's not arabic, he's "kabyle" (celtic origins, believe or not) - Alexandre Dumas was a "mulatre" : one his grand-parent was a black slave. - Nicolas Sarkozy's family is from Hungary 2 - People from the Caribean have been French full-rights citizens for more than 150 years now, when slavery was abolished. They have both African and European heritage, as both slaves or freed slaves and masters mixed a lot together. But DNA makes that "Black" colour takes the lead in most cases, so even a 75% European person would look "not of French ethnicity" to you. 7 players from France are from the Caribean. Cheers, Jérémie |
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