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Subject: email address
Category: Computers
Asked by: myrt606-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 11 Jul 2006 11:24 PDT
Expires: 10 Aug 2006 11:24 PDT
Question ID: 745339
Would like to know the origination (state, or latitude, longitude, or
city, or even street address) of an email address.  Have no header.  A
hotmail address. Have done reverse search everywhere and false name
was given to create it. So now I want to know what area, city  or
state it originated from.  It is not spam. Is it legal to give the
email address out for you to find it?
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Subject: Re: email address
From: pinkfreud-ga on 11 Jul 2006 11:30 PDT
 
Without a header, it is extremely unlikely that the origin of an email
can be traced unless the email address is listed in a directory. Have
you checked online email directories?
Subject: Re: email address
From: eiffel-ga on 11 Jul 2006 11:49 PDT
 
This may fall under this clause: "Google Answers discourages and may
remove questions that ... request private information about
individuals".

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Also, as pinkfreud-ga says, there's not enough information to "trace"
the email address as such. Only Hotmail themselves would have the
details. The best you could hope for is that somewhere there is a web
page (such as a directory listing) containing that email address and
some further clues.

Regards,
eiffel-ga
Subject: Re: email address
From: sycophant-ga on 11 Jul 2006 16:10 PDT
 
Also, an address as such does not originate from any one place as
such. A specific email does, but not the address generally. I can use
my email address from any place in the world. My domain name has an
address associated with it, but that may not be the same place that I
am. And obviously in the case of a hotmail.com address it will not be
any help.

With a specific email you would have headers, which could quite
possibly be traced to a general geographic area.
Subject: Re: email address
From: myrt606-ga on 11 Jul 2006 17:20 PDT
 
My significant other. he has the same name (very unusual name) with
yahoo. Valid email address given to me.  I suspect other parties, and
saw activity in a very undesirable  chat room with his screen  name
and sounded very much like him.........someone asked why he wanted
them to email him at the hotmail address..which I dont have.....(same
name) So if I am hearing you all correctly you are saying there's no
way I can find out if those 2 addresses Yahoo and hotmail are from
same computer, even the same area, longitude or latitude or state or
city.  Is this correct?
Subject: Re: email address
From: pinkfreud-ga on 11 Jul 2006 17:26 PDT
 
As sycophant has pointed out, an email address from a service like
Hotmail or Yahoo doesn't really have a location. The account holder
can use that email address from any computer in the world. It appears
that what you really want to know is the identity of the account
holder, and that information may be extremely difficult to obtain
(unless it's in an online directory). Web-based mail services
generally will not divulge information about account holders unless
ordered to do so by a court of law.
Subject: Re: email address
From: jhp7894-ga on 11 Jul 2006 22:33 PDT
 
You could probably make your own hotmail address, pretend to be
somebody else and try to get that person to tell you more about
themselves or even send you a photo... Otherwise you will need an IP
Address of some kind to get the hostname of...
Subject: Re: email address
From: wild0104-ga on 13 Jul 2006 11:15 PDT
 
As various others have pointed out the very nature of the internet
itself is that someone doesn't have to be static, i.e. in the same
place all the time to access content on the web (like hotmail e-mail
accounts). If there was valid legal cause for the information the only
way you might be able to ascertain that information would be to get
hotmail (aka Microsoft) to disclose to you the IP ("location") of the
computers accessing that account, from there you'd have to get the ISP
to provide you with the information as to the name of the client who
had the IP address provided by Micrsoft. But as with the nature of
many dynamic ip allocation methods in use today, you would have to
know when the access was taking place and hope the ISP could produce
the customer assigned that address at that time.

So in short: no its not possible

Again with the nature of the internet it can be very impersonal and
unsecure, thus people can provide false information while registering
free e-mail accounts and the like.

Hope that helps.
Subject: Re: email address
From: wild0104-ga on 13 Jul 2006 11:17 PDT
 
only other bit of possibly helpful info i could provide would be to
you, yourself impersonate someone else, or have a friend do it, and
try to get information from the person who is accessing the hotmail
account in question.
Subject: Re: email address
From: sycophant-ga on 14 Jul 2006 01:26 PDT
 
Based on your revised comment - the best bet you have is to email both
addresses and hope they both reply.

If both email addresses belonged to the same person and that person
replied to both emails while they were connected on the same IP
address you should be able to see that both emails originated from the
same connection.

In emails from Hotmail, the originating IP address is contained in the
X-Originating-IP header. For Yahoo emails it is in the Received
headers, and normally looks something like this:
Received: from [255.255.255.255] by web30214.mail.mud.yahoo.com...

But actually getting someone to reply to both emails could be fairly
tricky - so in practice I think you may be out of luck. You'd need to
come up with two emails that the user would be inclined to reply to,
probably from two seperate email addresses, and without them seeming
like they are both from the same person.

Another option is trying to send emails with 'Receive Receipt'
requests - but I am not sure if either Yahoo or Hotmail support that.
And most people don't actually use them.
Subject: Re: email address
From: reverend_jaj-ga on 28 Jul 2006 11:57 PDT
 
This requires a web server/hosting service that lets you read the
logs. Also, be aware that a tech-savvy person could track down your
web hosting account if they manage to catch this trick in action.

Create a jpg containing a single white pixel. Upload this to your web
server with an obscure name, and don't tell anyone else what it is.

Create a trash email account somewhere. Send an email to the Hotmail
account in question with the 1x1 pixel jpg embedded and some innocuous
text to distract them. Putting something like this in your message
will probably do the trick:
<img src="http://www.my-secret-web-host.com/obscure-image-filename.jpg">

When the mail is opened in a mailreader that supports HTML, that
filename will be requested, and you will have the IP in your web
server logs. That should be a nice start. This will work with all
webmail services that I have seen, and many POP clients as well.



Or so I have heard.

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