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Q: Earliest, Latest, and Average Freeze Dates for US Cities ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: Earliest, Latest, and Average Freeze Dates for US Cities
Category: Science > Agriculture and Farming
Asked by: kowkow-ga
List Price: $11.00
Posted: 12 Jul 2006 07:45 PDT
Expires: 11 Aug 2006 07:45 PDT
Question ID: 745584
I am looking for an organized, comprehensive list of US Cities (not
every city, but the more the better - at minimum the largest 300 or
so) with their corresponding average first and last freeze dates as
well as record first and last freeze dates. I have found many links to
individual city data at a time, but I am looking for one simply list
where I can quickly look up a city in a column and then look across
the row to find the specified data. Thanks!

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 12 Jul 2006 07:59 PDT
I found some data related to first and last frost dates:

http://www.victoryseeds.com/frost/
http://www.floridata.com/tracks/misc/frostdates.htm
http://www.growquest.com/frost_free_arizona.htm

Do these work for you as an answer?

tutuzdad-ga

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 12 Jul 2006 08:38 PDT
Hi kowkow,

Another possibility -

Freeze/Frost data for the U.S. 
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/freezefrost/freezefrost.pdf

Regards,
hummer

Clarification of Question by kowkow-ga on 14 Jul 2006 11:27 PDT
Hummer's link is a bit more along the lines of what I was looking for
but Tutu's are quite useful as well. I may be overlooking it, but I
didnt see *record* freeze dates (earliest and latest) within any of
the resources cited. The average and probability data, however, was
extremely useful and exactly what I was looking for.

I am satisifed enough with what you guys gave me but am unsure which
of you is the correct one to deem the "answerer". Ill let you guys
decide that. It would be helpful if whomever winds up being the
answerer could also find me info on the *record* freeze dates for
various cities as well, but Im not going to be a stickler about it.
Thanks!

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 14 Jul 2006 11:33 PDT
It your call.

Clarification of Question by kowkow-ga on 14 Jul 2006 16:43 PDT
If there is a way I can split payment between the two of ya, Ill do it
($6 to Hummmer, $5 to Tutu). If not, whomever will give me the record
dates as well will get the whole pie. If neither of these happen, Ill
just toss a coin I suppose. Thanks for the efforts.

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 14 Jul 2006 18:08 PDT
Hi kowkow and tutuzdad,

I've been searching for a database of the record first and last freeze
dates but haven't been able to find one yet. If you search for a city
at the NOAA, you can find something like this:

Oklahoma [see maps]:
Record Earliest Occurrence of the First Frost/Light Freeze (32F)
Record Latest Occurrence of the First Frost/Light Freeze (32F) 
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/climate/freeze.htm

Not exactly ideal but better than nothing. I'll look a bit more and
let you know what I turn up, at any rate, I'm glad to hear that we've
helped so far.
hummer

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 14 Jul 2006 18:12 PDT
Yes, I too ran onto that one and hoped that this site would have
produced (at a minimum) the records for each of the 50 states; but no
such luck. Where "records" of any kind are concerned data is typically
far behind the present day. My guess is that if such records "could"
be found they'd already be outdated anyway.

tutuzdad-ga

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 15 Jul 2006 07:51 PDT
Hi guys,

Agreed, tutuzdad. Probably the best thing to do would be to look up
historical records for each required city and pick out the frost
records manually.

Jackson, MS
Frost Data(Dates and Growing Season Days)...at Jackson...from 1896
Current Through 2005
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jan/frostfreq.html

Cheers,
hummer

Clarification of Question by kowkow-ga on 15 Jul 2006 10:25 PDT
Thanks so much guys. Hummer, Im gonna give the edge to you. Please
post as an answer so I can close this out. If there is a way I can
give something to Tutu, let me know, otherwise the pie goes to Hummer.
Thanks again - very thorough!

Request for Question Clarification by hummer-ga on 15 Jul 2006 10:33 PDT
Hi kowkow,

The easiest way to split a question between researchers is to lower
the price of this one for one of the researchers to answer, and then
post another question for the other researcher. Sorry for all of the
extra steps, it would be nice if GA could come up with a way to make
it easier.

I'm glad we were able to help. I won't post an answer until I hear back from you.
hummer

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 15 Jul 2006 13:13 PDT
No problem. I will concede to my colleague Hummer-ga. Maybe I can help
you another time.

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

Clarification of Question by kowkow-ga on 15 Jul 2006 18:55 PDT
Tutu, 

Generous of ya. I will be using this more often now so if you ever
answer something else for me I will keep your generosity this time in
mind.

Hummer,

Please post as an answer and I will give you the full amount.

Thanks yet again to both of you. I got what I was looking for.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Earliest, Latest, and Average Freeze Dates for US Cities
Answered By: hummer-ga on 16 Jul 2006 04:12 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi kowkow,

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to post my answer, I
appreciate it. Here it is again to make it official.

Freeze/Frost data for the U.S. 
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/freezefrost/freezefrost.pdf

I've been searching for a database of the record first and last freeze
dates but haven't been able to find one yet. If you search for a city
at the NOAA, you can find something like this:

Oklahoma [see maps]:
Record Earliest Occurrence of the First Frost/Light Freeze (32F)
Record Latest Occurrence of the First Frost/Light Freeze (32F) 
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/climate/freeze.htm

Probably the best thing to do would be to look up
historical records for each required city and pick out the frost
records manually.

Jackson, MS
Frost Data(Dates and Growing Season Days)...at Jackson...from 1896
Current Through 2005
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jan/frostfreq.html

I've enjoyed working on this side-by-side with my colleague, thank you
Tutuzdad. I think some interesting work could be accomplished if
"group projects" were somehow an option on GA. As they say, "two heads
are better than one"!

Sincerely,
hummer
kowkow-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $1.00
I really cant say more about how superb the quality of answer, effort,
fairness, and service that went into answering my question was. I also
agree that GA should come up with an option to allow for the splitting
of fees amongst researchers when a team effort is present. To prevent
disputes, I think it would be most logical to default to full payment
to the researcher who answers, but allow for an optional allocation
that occurs afterwards during the user rating (what I am doing here),
right next to the tip section, where the user can assign any
percentage of the value to other researchers who posted in the string.
The answering researcher then has to approve this to finalize it...
this would prevent disputes. Thanks again guys!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Earliest, Latest, and Average Freeze Dates for US Cities
From: hummer-ga on 16 Jul 2006 09:14 PDT
 
Thank you for the tip, kowkow! Well, we can't promise GA will always
hit the nail on the head for you but we can promise that we will
always try. It's been a pleasure.

Take care,
hummer

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