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Q: Mysterious Dead Royal ( No Answer,   2 Comments )
Subject: Mysterious Dead Royal
Category: Reference, Education and News > Current Events
Asked by: joubes-ga
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Posted: 17 Jul 2006 12:57 PDT
Expires: 16 Aug 2006 12:57 PDT
Question ID: 747134
I'd like to know if someone with the surname "De Savoie" (possibly
spelled as one word, or ending differently ex. "oy" or "oi")died in
France on or about July 7th, 2006. The deceased was a wealthy male,
possibly a "Duke or Royalty", and had a step-son named Peter.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 17 Jul 2006 13:12 PDT
An Italian Duke by the name of de Savoie is in a lot of legal hot
water in Italy, as widely (and gleefully) reported in the French
press.  A number of sons, cousins, etc appear to be involved as well,
though none named Peter.

I did not see any reports of recent deaths, though.

Might the scandal be what you're seeking?


Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 17 Jul 2006 13:13 PDT
P.S.  The scandal broke right around July 7, by the way.
There is no answer at this time.

Subject: Re: Mysterious Dead Royal
From: kritaly-ga on 25 Jul 2006 08:26 PDT
I think you're talking about the former Royal Family of Italy, the
Casa Savoia. There is a scandal going on now in Italy with the arrest
of the (former) Prince of Naples and heir to the (former) throne of
Italy, Vittorio Emmanuele, who is being investigated for a series of
charges including fraud after cell phone conversations were recorded
by invesitgators- and then played on the evening news!
But, I believe what your question refers to is the declaration made by
his cousin, the Duke Amadeo di Aosta, on July 7, where he now claims
the title of Duke of Savoy, and therefore the right to lead the House
of Savoy, and thus claim the throne of Italy for himself and his
heirs. (mind you, this is a throne which no longer actually exists).
The confision over a "death" may have come from a bad translation- the
declaration made in Italian was "la Consulta dei Senatori del Regno
con un comunicato ha dichiarato decaduto da ogni diritto dinastico il
figlio di quest'ultimo, Vittorio Emanuele e i suoi successori"
"Decaduto" is a sentence like this does not translate into deceased as
in dead, but something more like expired or annulled. So, no one
actually died, it's just one arm of the "royal" family trying to take
over power from the other side. Like I said, they are fighting over a
crown that hasn't existed since the 2nd World War...
Subject: Re: Mysterious Dead Royal
From: kritaly-ga on 25 Jul 2006 08:32 PDT
OOps, I forgot to mention that Amadeo has an illegitimate son named
Pietro Incisa della Rocchetta, born in 1967 to mother Nerina Corsini.

I'm not sure where he lives, but lots of the former Italian Royals are
in France and Switzerland- only until just a year (or maybe it's been
two) ago, the male members of the Savoia family who were heirs to the
throne were forbidden to enter Italy by the constitution. (the women
were allowed to visit).

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