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Subject: Women wearing ties
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: ruu99-ga
List Price: $3.00
Posted: 21 Jul 2006 08:25 PDT
Expires: 20 Aug 2006 08:25 PDT
Question ID: 748267
How should a woman wear a Tie? should it be a skinny tie if she is
fat? or a normal man's tie but loose round the neck? I want to wear it
to work and look professional yet feminine. I do not want to give any
lesbian vibes.

Many thanks,
R.
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Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
Answered By: cynthia-ga on 24 Jul 2006 13:25 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi ruu99,

From what I have found, women's neckties are worn loose around the
collar, the knot size varies, although in general they seem to be
bigger knots, and not "knotted as tightly" as men's ties. The ties
referenced below also seem to be wider than what is the current
fashion for men, but it may be just the loose knots that make them
appear that way.


Reference:

A Tie For All Times - women wear ties too: 
http://blog.fropper.com/times/2005/06/a_tie_for_all_t.html
..."The tie has transcended barriers and has become a part of women's
fashion too. From Italy, the Mediterranean, North America and Japan
many working women can be seen supporting a colorful cravat either in
the form of a men's tie loosely worn around the shirt collar or even a
scarf or a stole.

Nanda admits that it's a wonderful thought, "It's another idea that
crosses the boundary. My only caution to the ladies -- if you wear it,
then do so without any self doubt."

According to Nanda they have created a scarf line each year for the
last 19 years. "There is always a place for the scarf. It is such a
timeless, simple, easy and pretty idea - a scarf adds a little spice
to the clothes and there are innumerable ways to wear, and play with
your scarf, " he suggests.

Before you throw away your old discards, or splurge on a new outfit
consider a tie or a scarf to add zest to your vintage-wear or add a
touch of glamour to any newly acquired garments in your wardrobe..."


Examples of very classy women's ties that look neither manly nor lesbian-ish:

Elegant Hand Embellished Ties - Amazing Fashion Statements for Men and Women
https://www.artistor.com/store/LacyLady-gallery.html
..."Beautifully decorated with beads, braid,
crystals, applique, trim, lace, or jewelry..."

Vintage Designer Clothing - Women's Clothing - Ties 
http://www.vintagedesignerclothing.com/7618239.html
..."Many ties are suitable for both men and women, so we have placed
some of the ties in both pages..."

Uniformalwearhouse - Unisex & Women's Satin Ties
http://www.uniformalwearhouse.com/apages/womeneck1.html


Examples of knots:

Big Knot, loose at neck:
http://www.shaadi.com/wedding/fashion/accessories/images/sathya-paul-ties-5.jpg

Women's Neckties - An Original Design By: Kim Acree
http://www.maggiescrochet.com/pages/Fashion/fashion_page_6.htm

Several examples of women wearing ties
http://www.walsoriginals.com/womeninties.htm

Silk Ties!
http://www.sharonekaplan.com/ties.html


I hope this helps! 


~~Cynthia


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Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: kemlo-ga on 21 Jul 2006 09:14 PDT
 
Be like a cricketeer,  wear around the waist
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: artqs-ga on 21 Jul 2006 09:20 PDT
 
Just from personal experience, I've never found a woman wearing a tie
to look professional. It always screams to me "DONT TREAT ME LIKE A
WOMAN!!! I'M AN EQUAL!!!". We'll sure, I understand that. Just don't
wear the tie.

 - artqs
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: pinkfreud-ga on 21 Jul 2006 09:54 PDT
 
I don't care for the look of women in ties.

If a woman ties a tie exactly as a man would, she looks butch.

If a woman ties a tie differently from the way a man would, she looks
as if she is desperately mimicking men while striving for a "fashion
statement."

Either way, the tie doesn't work. I suggest a scarf instead.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: elids-ga on 21 Jul 2006 10:25 PDT
 
Fashion is clearly something personal, people often use it to express
with their outfits what they don't want to say out loud. So like with
everything else you have to say, some will like it some wont.

I don't like the look or the intent of what is being conveyed by a
woman wearing a tie, I already know they are equal. However, if they
go out of their way to make sure that I 'know' this, it is a clear
sign that they themselves do not believe it and are trying to convince
themselves of their equality as much as everybody else.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: myoarin-ga on 21 Jul 2006 10:50 PDT
 
I (older male in Europe) agree with the above.  You cannot avoid that
some people of either sex may think "butch", and you won't find out
whom unless/until they have some influence on your life/career. 
DON'T.

That said, I know a mother of six with lots of grandchildren who does
wear  neckties, but she married very early and never had a business
career  - a great one as a mother -  but maybe that is why she can get
away with it.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: nelson-ga on 21 Jul 2006 12:14 PDT
 
If you are not a lesbian, do not wear a tie unless you have a Y chromosome.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: qed100-ga on 21 Jul 2006 12:57 PDT
 
Go ahead and wear the tie. Let your behavior speak on behalf of your
orientation. If there are some at your workplace who don't read you
accurately, then that's their problem.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: elids-ga on 21 Jul 2006 13:27 PDT
 
"If there are some at your workplace who don't read you accurately,
then that's their problem."

Fair enough, but I have a question. If her boss doesn't read her
accurately and decides to pass her up for a promotion... Does it then
become her problem? I'm under the impression that what matters (to
others) is not so much what you are, but what they 'think' you are.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: amber00-ga on 21 Jul 2006 15:20 PDT
 
There is also the risk of looking like Avril Lavigne. People may
expect you to sing about skater boys.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: qed100-ga on 22 Jul 2006 16:46 PDT
 
"Fair enough, but I have a question. If her boss doesn't read her
accurately and decides to pass her up for a promotion... Does it then
become her problem? I'm under the impression that what matters (to
others) is not so much what you are, but what they 'think' you are."

   Yes, that's true enough. The individual will just have to decide
exactly what it is it wants to accomplish. The tie may, potentially,
need to be sacrificed on that basis.

   On the other hand, in my personal experience both I and generally
the people with whom I've worked have tended to be valued for our
results toward the bottom line. My expectation is that, regardless the
tie, in due time she'll prove her worth by her actions, and her
higher-ups will want some of that.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: frde-ga on 24 Jul 2006 03:46 PDT
 
I too am uncertain about a tie

My last Duchess was a 'professional' and I took some interest in
getting her to dress the part.
The simple solution was Jaeger suits (skirt - never trousers) and
white cotton Jaeger blouses
- expensive, but not in the long term, as like men, women wearing
suits don't have to bother with numerous outfits.

Wearing a loose tie would either look slovenly, or even worse like a
St Trinians tart.

You could try a cravat, or a smallish silk scarf.

The real trick, I believe, for looking conventionally smart, is a well
pressed white cotton shirt and conventional black shoes.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: myoarin-ga on 24 Jul 2006 06:03 PDT
 
Good point, Frde.
For professional women  -as for men -  the clothing should make the
person look good, smart,  not stand out by itself or be making a
statement.  The viewer should think: she looks very well dressed; 
not:  her dress/suit is really something;
or:  why is she wearing that.
Myo
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: frde-ga on 25 Jul 2006 03:04 PDT
 
@MyOarin

You might be amused by this.

I worked for a software house that dealt with numerous international banks.
- one of my duties (apart from programming the tricky bits) was to
take people on one side and say :-
  'We work for bankers - and dress smarter than our clients'

It was always a laugh when clients visited for the first time,
expecting to see a bunch of hippies in sandals.

We ran as two parallel departments.
One of my most amusing experiences was when the other bunch were in a
quandary, they wanted to employ a talented guy with long hair and an
ear ring.
- not a problem, I simply told him 
 'we want you but, lose the ear ring at work and get a haircut - and you're in' 

Personally I reckon that the trick is to look smart but somehow 'grey'
- there are advantages in blending into the background
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: myoarin-ga on 25 Jul 2006 04:37 PDT
 
Frde,
Yes, indeed, I was amused. :) Thanks. 

     *  *  *
 
"Several examples of women wearing ties
http://www.walsoriginals.com/womeninties.htm"

There are, of course, some women who just look good in anything, at
least when they are just modeling.
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: ruu99-ga on 03 Sep 2006 09:45 PDT
 
Wow - thanks for all of your comments. I really wasn't trying to make
any statement about women's equality or anything. My reason for
wanting to wear a tie is a really simple one - alot of ties these days
are colourful, have great desigsn and look fab. Just wanted to add a
bit of colour to my outfit that's all. I organise events so its good
to stand out a little bit, so thought the tie would do the trick.

Oh and my boss did pass me up for promotion - but not for wearing a tie!
Subject: Re: Women wearing ties
From: frde-ga on 06 Sep 2006 07:06 PDT
 
I think I understand, albeit male I once worked in a similar role
- and admire other crowd control experts

The thing is that ties are ... well slightly kinky on a lass
- especially in the UK

One trick I've seen is to get a normal suit re-lined with a violently
coloured silk, you just need to open your jacket to arrest the eyes
(and attention) of everyone who can see it.  ( I learnt that from a UK
guy worth at least $1b )

Mostly it is just confidence - or arrogance.

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