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Subject:
Equinox
Category: Science > Astronomy Asked by: gregorydove-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
23 Jul 2006 05:05 PDT
Expires: 22 Aug 2006 05:05 PDT Question ID: 748707 |
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Subject:
Re: Equinox
Answered By: gregaw-ga on 14 Aug 2006 09:28 PDT Rated: |
Normally the effects of the atmosphere have more of an effect than the leading edge of the sun coming up before its centre. The only exception would be close to the poles. This US military FAQ shows that normally atmospheric refraction effects sunrise /sunset times twice as much as the sun's edges appearing before its center. This would be considered "definitive". http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/equinoxes.html "The times of sunrise and sunset in almanacs are calculated for the normal atmospheric refraction of 34 minutes of arc and a semidiameter of 16 minutes of arc for the disk." Keep in mind that ?minute of arc? is referring to 1/60 of a degree rather than an actual minute. Here is some further explanation of my answer: This article states that the upper limb of the sun coming up only account for about 2 minutes or your discrepancy. (at the equator) This would only make it a difference of 4 minutes between "day" and "night". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox "Sunrise and sunset are commonly defined for the upper limb of the solar disk, and not for its centre. The limb is already up for at least one minute before the centre appears, and likewise sets one minute before the last appearance of the limb sets too." This effect becomes greater as you move away from the equator. Your latitude determines how much of an effect this will have. London has a latitude of about 51 degrees North. It will see more sun than someone at the equator because of the angle at which the sun sets. (see the cool pictures on the wikipedia page) This increases the time you see the sun because it sets "slower" due to the angle. This of course gives more weight to your side of the argument, but not enough. The only time you would be right would be when you are much closer to the poles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox March 20, 2005 at the equator = 6:04am to 6:11pm London is at about 51 degrees North, so the ratio you are looking for will be very close of 50/50 if not leaning slightly in favor of atmospheric refraction as the leading cause of this phenomenon. As a point of clarification: The equinoxes varies between from March 20th and 21st and September 22nd and 23rd. In 2005 the Spring Equinox was March 20th. The sunrise / sunset times were: 6:03 AM and 6:14 PM. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=136&obj=sun&month=3&year=2005&day=1 If you require any further information please post a request for clarification and I will respond as soon as possible. Thanks! |
gregorydove-ga
rated this answer:
Well done, once the clarification was made. Thanks. |
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Subject:
Re: Equinox
From: myoarin-ga on 23 Jul 2006 05:42 PDT |
Someone else was quite satisfied with the answer to a very similar question: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=495777 |
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