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gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
Category: Science > Instruments and Methods Asked by: vonwao-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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25 Jul 2006 12:34 PDT
Expires: 24 Aug 2006 12:34 PDT Question ID: 749414 |
I am tinkering with a prototype for an invention, and I need to attach some pipes to a water tank. Ideally, I would want to weld it together, but I want a cheap/easy/quick-and-dirty solution. I'm not concerned about it being particularly strong or durable(it's just a prototype), but it does have to be watertight. I think the tank will be calvanized steel and the pipes are both copper and galvanized steel. The reason I ask is because I've never heard of soldering steel together (I know copper tubing can be soldered). |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
Answered By: kriswrite-ga on 25 Jul 2006 12:55 PDT Rated: |
Hellow vonwao~ Yes, it is possible to solder steel. Make sure your surfaces are clean by scraping them down with steel wool and using H3PO4 acid (Phosphoric Acid) to clean them. (For places to buy this online, check out the following Froogle Search: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Phosphoric%20Acid&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=wf ). Then, use plumber's acid flux (available at hardware stores, or : http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=acid+flux&hl=en&btnG=Search ) for the soldering. Ordinary tin-lead solder will work great. For websites that describe this process (in brief) see: * "It's Such a Stud," Land Rover: http://www.fourfold.org/LR_FAQ/Series/FAQ.S.repairs.StudPlateFabrication.html * "Soldering Stainless Steel," Candle Power Forum: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45331 * "Radio Misc." Antique Radio Classified: http://www.antiqueradio.com/radiomisc12-96.html Kind regards, Kriswrite RESEARCH STRATEGY: "solder steel" "how to" "solder steel" "soldering steel" |
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thanks, good info |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
From: myoarin-ga on 25 Jul 2006 13:51 PDT |
There may be pipe fittings to attach steel or copper pipe to a tank. Soldering seem a bit fragile to me. Welding would be stronger, and probably easier if you have any experience and access (rental) to a electric welder. |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
From: pugwashjw65-ga on 25 Jul 2006 17:57 PDT |
"SIKA" brand silicone sealant. Knew a bloke who used the high temperature type [ used in the mineral sands industry to seal elevators that transport hot processed sand] to act as a head gasket for his car, and without any actuak gasket, not just as a gasket sealer. It was good for up to 1500 degrees and the seal was so good I doubt if he would ever be able to get the [cylinder] head off again. It also has very good flexing qualities for 90 degree joins. |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
From: maluca-ga on 25 Jul 2006 20:27 PDT |
Try Liquid Steel. |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
From: maluca-ga on 25 Jul 2006 20:30 PDT |
J-B Weld is what I meant although Liquid Steel may work as well. |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
From: vonwao-ga on 27 Jul 2006 09:31 PDT |
Actually, these are great comments, thanks for all this info. Perhaps I should try welding, I did not think of renting a welder. I will also look into the J-B Weld / liquid steel. My only concern is that it needs to withstand water pressure (connected to municipal water), and I'm afraid it will leak. Thanks for these comments. |
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Re: gluing metal (soldering or other method) for a prototype
From: nf1001-ga on 09 Oct 2006 11:45 PDT |
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO WELD GALVANIZED STEEL! The fumes are instantly FATAL! You must really know what you are doing to weld it. Soldering works fine on steel as decribed above. Better would be to solder a threaded fitting on and then screw the pipes on. |
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