Hi ghost2006,
Thank you for referring this question to me, I'll try to clear up a
few points for you.
Canadian citizenship is based on residency, so vka2b would have to
reside as a permanent resident (immigrant) in Canada for at least four
years before applying for citizenship. Also, to apply for permanent
residency, his wife would have to be already living in Canada to
qualify as a sponsor. So until global warming forces them to look to
the north for relief, I don't think Canadian citizenship will be an
option for him any time soon.
Family Class Immigration (Spousal)
"Canadian citizens and permanent residents living in Canada, 18 years
of age or older, may sponsor close relatives or family members who
want to become permanent residents of Canada. Sponsors must promise to
support the relative or family member and their accompanying family
members for a period of three to 10 years to help them settle in
Canada."
Applications for Sponsorship and Immigration to Canada from Abroad
"Before your relative or family member can immigrate to Canada, you
must sponsor that person. Your relative or family member must then
apply for immigration. Learn more and print the information guides and
applications you need for sponsorship and immigration."
Applications for Sponsorship and Immigration from Within Canada
"In some cases, you may sponsor a spouse or common-law partner who is
already living with you in Canada. Learn more and print the
information guides and applications you need for sponsorship and
immigration."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html
Becoming a Canadian Citizen
To become a Canadian citizen, you must:
* be 18 years of age or older;
* be a permanent resident of Canada;
* have lived in Canada for at least three of the four years before applying;
* be able to communicate in either English or French;
* know about Canada; and
* know about the rights and responsibilities of citizenship;
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html
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In regards to Comment Buttons, they are only active for a certain
length of time. The question you are referring to was posted 28 Dec
2004, so the button has expired. The only button that is still active
on that question is the Clarification Button, I don't think that one
will ever expire but I could be wrong about that.
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Now, on to "fount" (sorry I'm so late with this). You can hear the
pronunciation here:
fount
Variant of font.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fount
Thinking about it, I would think "fount" would be more appropriate in
Canada, as in, "yogourt".
And finally...
font:
4 An abundant source; a fount: She was a font of wisdom and good sense.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=font
Thank you! : )
Take care, ghost2006,
hummer |
Request for Answer Clarification by
ghost2006-ga
on
26 Jul 2006 09:44 PDT
Dear hummer, good to hear from you again. I believe, and seem to
undestand it should be possible from your answer, that somebody from
the lady's Canadian family could sponsor her husband as a family
member. Also, I believe that, once her relative has obtained
sponsorchip permission, the first time he comes to Canada he would
become a landed immigrant (at least, this is how it worked for me),
even if he does not reside here. As such, I believe (but this may
have changed), that he then has all the rights of a Canadian, except
for passport and anything else that goes with citizenship . Such as
Health Care etc., if he decides, for instance, to have a long vacation
with his wife's family. In any case, even if this were not true, if
the global warming pushes them up here (although in Alberta at least
it is almost just as hot), everything would be ready for him to start
his perment residenship here.
Finally, I am not sure on how to contact vka2b to get him to read
this. I do not think I can, there are no usable buttons for me on
that question. However, I beieve you can still post to that question
(at least you did it the other day), so would you please notify him
that this is going on? Thanks.
Greatest regards
ghost
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Clarification of Answer by
hummer-ga
on
26 Jul 2006 11:32 PDT
Dear ghost,
Well, you've posted an interesting scenario, and if true, would be
good news for many folks hoping to become permanent residents in
Canada. However, other than spouses (or other legal partners),
relatives must be related by blood (or adoption). I've never heard of
an in-law being considered a close relative.
You can sponsor relatives or family members from abroad if they are:
* spouses, common-law or conjugal partners 16 years of age or older;
* parents and grandparents;
* dependent children, including adopted children;
* children under 18 years of age whom you intend to adopt;
* brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces or grandchildren who are
orphans; under the age of 18 and not married or in a common-law
relationship; or
* you may also sponsor one relative of any age if you do not have an
aunt, uncle or family member from the list above who you could sponsor
or who is already a Canadian citizen, Indian or permanent resident.
Applying as a Sponsored Immigrant
"If you wish to become a permanent resident of Canada, your relative
or family member in Canada must first apply to sponsor you. You must
be one of the relatives or family members listed above to be eligible
for sponsorship."
Applications for Sponsorship and Immigration to Canada from Abroad
"Before your relative or family member can immigrate to Canada, you
must sponsor that person. Your relative or family member must then
apply for immigration. Learn more and print the information guides and
applications you need for sponsorship and immigration."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html
Then, even if an in-law could sponsor a relative living abroad, vka2b
would still have to complete the following steps.
What will the person you want to sponsor have to do?
He or she will have to:
* sign the Agreement (form IMM 1344B);
* complete the forms included with The Immigrant?s Guide for
sponsored parents, grandparents, adopted children and other relatives,
and send them with the required documentation to the visa office that
will be processing his or her application;
* go for an interview at a Canadian visa office;
* undergo a medical examination (results of the medical examination
are valid for 12 months). The visa office will send the person you are
sponsoring and his or her family members instructions on how to
proceed;
Note: It is the responsibility of the person being sponsored and of
his or her family members to pay the costs of their medical
examination.
* pass criminal and security checks; and
* obtain passports and, in some countries, exit visas.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/guides/5196E9.html#wp1045281
If all went well and he received his PR card, CIC would expect him to
make a home in Canada and meet other PR obligations.
Residency Obligations for Permanent Residents
"Permanent residence status gives a non-Canadian the right to live in
Canada. You must meet certain residency obligations to maintain your
status as a permanent resident."
Permanent Residence Obligations
Here is what you must do to comply with your residency obligations.
"You must accumulate two years of physical presence in Canada in every
five-year period. You can also count Canadian residency days if you
are outside Canada for an extended period of time for one of the
following reasons
* You are accompanying your Canadian-citizen spouse or common-law partner.
* You are employed on a full-time basis by a Canadian business, the
Public Service of Canada or the public service of a Canadian province.
* You are accompanying your permanent resident spouse or common-law
partner who is also outside Canada and who is employed on a full-time
basis by a Canadian business, the Public Service of Canada or the
public service of a Canadian province.
Please note that you are complying with your residency obligations only if:
* your accompanying permanent-resident spouse, common-law partner or
parent is complying with their residency obligations; and
* you ordinarily reside with your accompanying Canadian-citizen or
permanent-resident spouse, common-law partner or parent.
Failure to Comply with Residency Obligations
"You may lose your permanent resident status if you fail to comply
with your residency obligations.
It is up to you to provide all required information and to provide
evidence of your compliance with these obligations."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomer/res-oblig.html
Citizenship
You must have lived here for at least three years.
"You must have lived in Canada for at least three years out of the
four years immediately preceding your application for citizenship. For
example, if you applied for citizenship on June 1, 2004, we will count
back to June 1, 2000. The time you lived in Canada AFTER you became a
permanent resident counts as full time. The time you lived in Canada
BEFORE you became a permanent resident counts as half time only if it
falls within these four years."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/howto-e.html
But all of that is moot, ghost, because son-in-laws are not included
in the list of relatives who can be sponsored.
Thanks for the interesting thought, though!
hummer
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ghost2006-ga
on
26 Jul 2006 14:18 PDT
Well, I guess you are right, hummer, about in-laws, however I have
found info about sponsoring a spouse if you live abroad. As I
understand it, you can process the sponsoring, but the spouse cannot
become a permanent resident until the Canadian Citizen returns to
bcome a resident of Canada (see links below). However, we do not know
in the wife has retained her residence (probably not).
In any case, I guess this exercise is futile if we cannot get vka2b-ga
to read this question. He may not even be interested. Again, I
cannot do it, since I doubt he checks all the questions in GA. Hope
you have notified him through the "Clarification Button" in your old
question.
Alas, I will have to go to my country of origin earlier than expected
(like middle of next week), so I should stop having fun with GA and
start packing (and finish the miriad things I have left to do)! So, I
would like to thank you for all the other information you have given
me throughout this exercise, so I will rate this answer and I will
leave the rest (if any) to you. Thanks again
Ghost
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html
Quote 1: You can sponsor relatives or family members from abroad if
they are: spouses, ..."
Quote 2: (lower down)
"Applications for Sponsorship and Immigration to Canada from Abroad:
Before your relative or family member can immigrate to Canada, you
must sponsor that person. Your relative or family member must then
apply for immigration."
(click on "information guides and applications" to go to the next link)
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/out.html - Sponsoring a Relative
or Family Member to Come to Canada
Quote 1: "Applications:
Use this application form and guide if you are sponsoring a spouse,
... to come to Canada." click on "spouse, common-law partner, ..." to
get to next link
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/fc.html - Application to
Sponsor a Member of the Family Class
Quote 1: "Part A: Sponsorship Forms
General information on making a sponsorship:
Guide to sponsorship [IMM 3900]"
click on "" to get to the next link
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/3900E.pdf - Guide to sponsorship
- top of page 13 (If I live outside Canada, can I sponsor?)
Quote 1: " ... if you live outside Canada ... If you are a Canadian
citizen, you may sponsor a spouse"
Quote 2: "You must live in Canada when the sponsored person becomes a
permanent resident ..."
- page 14: How to Apply to Sponsor
- page 14: Step 1: ... Forms for the sponsorship application
Quote 1: "... If you think you are eligible to sponsor and wish to
support the immigration application of your spouse ..."
..."
Quote 2: "... If you ... *** are living exclusively outside Canada ***
and intend to live in a province or territory ... upon your return,
you must complete the following forms: ...."
Note: this link gives a definition of spouse
(http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/familymembers.html)
Quote 1: "Spouse:
You are a spouse if you are married to your sponsor and your marriage
is legally valid.
If you were married in Canada: You must have a Certificate of Marriage
issued by the province or territory where the marriage took place.
If you were married outside Canada: The marriage must be valid under
the law of the country where it took place and under Canadian law."
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Clarification of Answer by
hummer-ga
on
26 Jul 2006 17:56 PDT
Dear ghost,
Thank you for your thank you and generous tip! I'm happy you are
happy. Just a few words about your clarification - I can see you have
really done some digging!
I already gave you this link, "You can sponsor relatives or family
members from abroad if they are:" in my clarification and which I
quoted. It is in reference to bringing a relative to Canada who is not
already in Canada (but the sponsor is in Canada)
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html
Same here, relative is abroad, sponsor is in Canada.
If you want to be re-united in Canada with a relative or family member
living abroad, you must sponsor that relative or family member to
immigrate as a member of the Family Class.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/out.html
Your next point, about the sponsor being abroad, is well taken.
However, don't forget that the sponsor must be residing in Canada at
the time the relative applies for the PR. Therefore my statement,
"Also, to apply for permanent
residency, his wife would have to be already living in Canada..." is
correct but the next 5 words, "...to qualify as a sponsor" are
misleading. So, although she can *apply* to sponsor him while they
are still in the U.S., they must provide evidence that they will
reside in Canada and she must be residing there at the time of his
immigration (the sponsorship doesn't begin until he has immigrated).
Who can sponsor?
You may be eligible to sponsor if:
* the person you want to sponsor is a member of the family class;
Note: If that person is not a member of the family class, you will not
meet sponsorship requirements and, therefore, your application to
sponsor will not be approved and the application for permanent
residence of the person you want to sponsor will be refused, unless
you decide to withdraw your sponsorship application. If you withdraw
the sponsorship, you will have no appeal rights.
* you are 18 years of age or older;
* you are a Canadian citizen or permanent resident;
* you reside in Canada;
Canadian citizens not residing in Canada may sponsor their spouse,
common-law partner, conjugal partner and/or dependent children who
have no dependent children of their own. Canadians travelling abroad
as tourists are not considered to be residing outside Canada.
Sponsors not residing in Canada must provide evidence that they reside
exclusively outside Canada on the date of giving the undertaking and
will reside in Canada at the time their sponsored spouse, common-law
partner, conjugal partner and/or children become permanent residents
of Canada. Evidence that they will reside in Canada may include one or
more of the following:
o letter from an employer;
o letter of acceptance to a Canadian educational institution;
o proof of having rented/bought a dwelling in Canada;
o reasonable plans for re-establishing in Canada or severing ties
to the other country.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/guides/3900E2.html#wp1018542
Thanks again and have a safe journey,
hummer
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ghost2006-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 08:13 PDT
Dear Hummer, you are very welcome. Also, I must apologize. I did
call you a "he" in my rating. Of course I have no idea, and the truth
is that I cannot really tell. In any case, I enjoy talking to smart
and nice people, with a good sense of humour. And right now I must
admit I could do with a friend. Pretty stressful period in my life.
So, I will monitor this question today, and if you are willing to
connect with me outside of GA, let me know. I have devised a way that
should not compromise our respective privacy. I will describe it here,
and you may be the judge of that. Whatever you decide to do, it has
been great knowing you, and if nothing else I am sure that I will have
other questions for GA. Cheers, and all the best
R.
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Clarification of Answer by
hummer-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 09:11 PDT
Dear R,
Please do not post anything regarding how to communicate privately,
you would run the risk of being banned from GA. That is one policy
that is strictly enforced. I understand how you must be feeling (just
getting on a plane is stressful enough for me), but focus on the
positive (spending time with your parents) and the rest will be
easier.
Yes, I am often referred to as "he" but I'm a bird, not a car!
Cheers,
H
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ghost2006-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 13:03 PDT
Yes, I had it figured out. A hummingbird, I would think. Too bad
that the car makers stole your great name for such a (for me) ugly
car. Not that I want to offend anybody, just my personal preference,
and I would respect ( with a grain of salt) anybody who do likes that
type of car. In any case, you are right, I checked on the FAQs, I
could if I wanted put an email address on GA, but they suggest not
too, since it would be potentially dangerous for my privacy (not that
I would ever put anything but a throw-away address on a public forum).
Awever, the Researcher are basically mandated not to respond to any
such request for private contact. Too bad. Anyway, this is all from
me now. Thanks for the good wishes, the information, and for giving
me such a good introduction to GA. I can understand why you do the
research. It is a lot of fun (I have given some tips to another
question. Makes you feel good). Ciao
R.
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Clarification of Answer by
hummer-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 14:00 PDT
R, sounds like you're going to become a GA "regular". That's nice,
you'll get to "know" both researchers and commentors and enjoy some of
the interesting questions (quite a bit about Canada, actually), and
yes, helping people is really nice.
If you've never put out Hummer feeders, give it a try, you'll get
hooked. The little creatures will keep you amused all summer. Stir
together 2 cups of water and 1/2 cup of sugar (4:1 ratio) and boil
hard for about 2 minutes (be sure to dissolve all the crystals that
form on the sides of the pot and spoon). No need to put red coloring
in it, they'll find it when it's in a feeder.
Bon voyage,
H
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ghost2006-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 15:51 PDT
Hi. I will have to stop doing this, it is addictive! Also, I really
am running out of time, and going crazy in the process. However, this
is a little corner of sanity, and again I really enjoy your company.
So. I did buy a hummingbird feeder this summer, for the first time,
but I am ashamed to say that it is still inside my cupboard. Believe
it or not, not enough time to do anything about it! It will have to
wait for my return next summer, but it will wait quitly, and I am
positive I will love it. Too bad that where I am going there are no
hummingbirds. But, as you are saying, there are my parents. And
other family and friends. I wish everybody was healthier, it would
make life more simple and enjoyable. On the other hand, if they were,
I would still be working here and not considering going back, at least
not for a while. So maybe it all works out for the best. Have a
great rest of the summer
R.
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Clarification of Answer by
hummer-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 16:33 PDT
R, I am posting this to get rid of my "Please respond to the
clarification request" notice, no need to respond, we both have work
to do! Cheers, hummer
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Request for Answer Clarification by
ghost2006-ga
on
27 Jul 2006 22:03 PDT
Thank you. Bye.
R
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Clarification of Answer by
hummer-ga
on
28 Jul 2006 06:30 PDT
R, don't answer this :) H
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