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Subject: My uncle's Navy record
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: dax8-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 26 Jul 2006 06:41 PDT
Expires: 25 Aug 2006 06:41 PDT
Question ID: 749689
My uncle was on the Yantze River Patrol and I would like to know what
ship he served aboard.  How can I do this?

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 26 Jul 2006 06:53 PDT
Can you provide any other information? Some things that might help
find an answer would be his name, the years he served, the position he
held (not just "Navy" but perhaps a gunner, boatswain, etc), his rank,
and of course what "Navy" you are speaking of (country).

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 26 Jul 2006 06:57 PDT
Just to let you know the US Navy's Yangtze Patrol existed under
several different names for almost 100 years (1854 to 1941) so as much
information as you can supply will be instrumental in finding an
answer.
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Subject: Re: My uncle's Navy record
Answered By: keystroke-ga on 26 Jul 2006 07:49 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
The best way to get this information is to look over the following website

http://www.history.navy.mil/

Specifically

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq19-1.htm

I believe the part that will interest you most will be this.

"    The National Personnel Records Center, 9700 Page Boulevard, St.
Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 has custody of the official individual
personnel records of Navy commissioned officers separated after 1902
and Navy enlisted personnel separated after 1885. These records
include the full name of the serviceman, next of kin, date of
enlistment, date retired, units with which he served, and any medals
and awards to which the veteran was entitled, as well as other
details. Information from these records is available to the veteran,
or if deceased, to the next of kin. Contrary to rumors, the 1973 fire
did not destroy Navy or Marine Corps records.

    Through the Freedom of Information Act, the public has access to
certain military service information without the authorization of the
veteran, or the next-of-kin of deceased veterans. Examples of
information which may be available from official military personnel
files without an unwarranted invasion of privacy include: name,
service number, rank, dates of service, awards and decorations and
place of entrance and separation."

I feel that if you can give them enough information (which only you or
your immediate family will know) you will be able to get a full list
of the military activities for your uncle.

If your uncle was in active service before the two aforementioned
dates I would suggest trying this department

"The Civil and Old Military Records Branch, National Archives, 700
Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20408 (phone 202-357-5444) has
custody of records relating to naval officers from 1798 to 1902 and
enlisted men from 1798 to 1885. Naval service records of the
Revolutionary War period are fragmentary, including only such
information as the serviceman's name and rank, the name of the vessel
on which he served, and the dates of his service or the dates on which
he was paid. Abstracts of service performed by most commissioned
Regular Navy officers, volunteer naval officers of the Civil War
period, some noncommissioned officers, and a few professors and
teachers at the U.S. Naval Academy were compiled by the Navy
Department. These abstracts, covering the period 1798 to 1924, usually
provide the date of the officer's appointment, the date and nature of
changes in rank, as well as the date and nature of the termination of
his service. Prior to 1885, the Navy Department did not assemble any
compilations of service for enlisted men. Records pertaining to such
service are scattered among many files, registers, returns, reports,
and other related records held by the National Archives."

The website of the The National Personnel Records Center is located at
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/

The following page gives you information on how to request military
service information
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/get-service-records.html

However I feel you would be most successful speaking to them directly
through one of these ways and find out if the information is available
(I would suggest telephone as your first option).

The National Archives and Records Administration
8601 Adelphi Road
College Park, MD 20740-6001

1-866-272-6272
or
1-86-NARA-NARA

If neither of these government departments can help you (which, unless
you cannot give them enough information, I would highly doubt as they
are the definitive resource for all things naval, you won't find a
better database than they have) I would suggest doing name searches of
your uncle on google, if the name search shows too much information
add extra words such as his place of birth or river patrol in quotes
and this will help you narrow the search entries down.

If, after speaking to both the The Civil and Old Military Records
Branch AND The National Personnel Records Center and Google is not
showing you information pertaining to your uncle the last thing i
would suggest is to speak to family members and see what they
remember, if even they do not know anything it may be that the
information you require is not available.

I hope this points you in the right direction and the national
information archives can help you with this.

--Keystroke-ga

Clarification of Answer by keystroke-ga on 26 Jul 2006 07:56 PDT
You may also use this website to request military records for your uncle.

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/evetrecs/index.html

The telephone number for the National Personnel Records Center is, 314-801-0800 

They may be able to help you and tell you if the information you
require is available.

--Keystroke-ga

Clarification of Answer by keystroke-ga on 26 Jul 2006 08:13 PDT
I will also add that I recently did just this very thing. I requested
a family member's records-- one note is that you must be next of kin
to request the records. Brothers, sisters and children are considered
next of kin, but not nieces and nephews. For the family member I was
seeking records of, I had to do the request on my mother's behalf, as
she was next of kin and I was not. The social security number helps,
but if you don't have that you can provide other information.

In addition, you will have a choice of whether you want just a
discharge record or complete records.  I chose complete records and
they sent every piece of paper that had my uncle's name on it. Quite
an extensive record.

Another applicable point is that one of the records warehouses burned
down in the 1970s, so some of the records are missing and/or might not
exist any more.  They definitely tell you that repeatedly as you go
through the process on the website.

They also told me that it might take up to six months to get the data
back, but they were actually very quick in getting it back to me.  I
would recommend the process! They give you every record imaginable--
they gave results of my uncle's rifle tests and everything. The
results for WWII might not be as extensive as for Vietnam, though. 
Good luck!

In addition, here was my search strategy:

Search terms:
"yangtze river patrol"
"navy sailor records"

+ personal knowledge of the VetRecs website

Request for Answer Clarification by dax8-ga on 27 Jul 2006 09:07 PDT
My uncle's name was Joseph Garstka (or Garstki).  He was a Chief Petty
Officer when he retired.  He was a gunner.  During WWII he was aboard
(I believe) the USS Nimitz.

He died in April of 1968.

If you need any other information, please let me know.

Clarification of Answer by keystroke-ga on 27 Jul 2006 09:33 PDT
I have done a quick search of google for your uncle and unfortunately
nothing is coming up for

"Joseph Garstka" gunner
"Joseph Garstka" 1968
"Joseph Garstka" petty officer

A few items come up for "Joseph Garstka" but I would not know who was
correct and who was not.

I think your best option would be to go directly to the records
database and ask them, they have the best American military database
and should be able to tell you everything right down to his shoe size.

If you want a google researcher to research the information for you I
think you would need to post a new separate question so someone else
could answer it, however I don't you will get a better response than
what you could from the records database.

--Keystroke-ga
dax8-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars

Comments  
Subject: Re: My uncle's Navy record
From: byrd-ga on 26 Jul 2006 07:59 PDT
 
So keystroke-ga, how did you find this information? What was your
search strategy? What were your search terms?
Subject: Re: My uncle's Navy record
From: tutuzdad-ga on 26 Jul 2006 10:23 PDT
 
As an option, the customer might consider posting another seperate
question containing the information I was asking about in my
clarification request. This way we might actually find out something
about the person being researched.

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