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Subject: Acer Aspire laptop / notebook upgrade help
Category: Computers > Hardware
Asked by: cronula-ga
List Price: $180.00
Posted: 01 Aug 2006 03:08 PDT
Expires: 31 Aug 2006 03:08 PDT
Question ID: 751379
Hello. I have an Acer Aspire laptop/notebook, model number 3623WXCi.
Due to work reasons involving heavy use of CAD software, I would like
to upgrade from the factory default Intel Celeron M with 256MB DDR2
configuration to an Intel Pentium M mobile processor with at least a
512MB of memory configuration, if it is all possible.

However I?m currently on a budget but I would like to upgrade to a
better performance laptop, I was wondering if

?	It would actually cost more (in terms of risk involved during
upgrade & price) to upgrading the laptop as a whole, and

?	it would be possible in the first place to upgrade the laptop in the
first place, given that Intel Celeron M and Intel Pentium M might
share the same CPU socket / motherboard configuration, and

?	if so, what are the processor(s) best matched with the factory
default motherboard,

?	and be able to guide me with a clear and concise step-by-step
process of installing the new processor (I have no problem with
installing the memory myself)

?	and last but not least, put yourself in my shoes. 
What would your best recommended, cost-effective option be, and why? ;)

Thanks for your help! I consider myself with an advanced knowledge
with computer systems, so the answer would best suit people with sound
knowledge with computers. Generous tip will be offered for anyone who
can give me the best, cost effective option.

Cheers and have a great day!

Request for Question Clarification by keystroke-ga on 01 Aug 2006 03:34 PDT
I am willing to help you with this question but a couple of points of
thought shouldbe answered first.

1 How old is this laptop?
2 What is your budget?

I have recently completed the exact same process with a Dell machine,
my option was to replace the laptop.

If you can answer these questions I will help you further and give you
the best answer you will need as I think I already know what would be
your best option.

--Keystroke-ga

Request for Question Clarification by keystroke-ga on 01 Aug 2006 04:07 PDT
I am currently on old with the Acer presalesteam, to ensure that you
get the absolute best service today I am directly contacting and
speaking to Acer directly, no one is going to have better knowledge
than they do about the products.

My initial thoughts on the situation is that most Acer laptops come
with the processor built into the motherboard. I have just spoken with
an Acer presales consultant who has just confirmed this and has
advised me to speak directly to the Acer technical team.

If the situation turns out that the CPU is built directly into the
motherboard this may mean in order to get everything to fit you will
need the following items.

A new motherboard and CPU combo, new memory, a new laptop case to
house the new motherboard and memory, a new TFT screen that comes with
the laptop case.

If you are buying these parts as individual items the prices will be
inflated when compared to buying a new laptop with all these items
already built into the laptop. This leads me onto my next line of
thought. It may be cheaper for you to buy the laptop rather than buy
almost everything and try to fit the items yourself. I have tried to
install items into a laptop (not including memory and hard drives and
CD drives) and I have admit that the process is not as easyand
straight forward as I had hoped.

This point then leads me onto thinking that the graphical power of
your laptop could also be a hindrance to the CAD work you are doing. A
new graphics card may be a wise move along with the memory and CPU.

The processor you are hoping to move to is an already outdated model.
Intel have released something called the Core Duo which is a much more
energy efficient CPU than the Pentium M processor that has dual cores
which will provide you with a much better experience when using CAD on
your laptop. Prices of Dual core laptops are not overly high, to use
Dell as an example.

http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/entnb_e1505?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

This website shows you the E1505 Dell laptop with a Dual core CPU and
a single Core CPU. The prices range from $669 with 512MB of ram and a
single core CPU to $869 with a dual core and 1 gig of ram (I would
advise this for CAD work).

The single Core machine comes with 1 year warranty, the dual core
comes with 2 years of warranty. Replacing the motherboard in your
system may invalidate the warranty if you have any left and if things
go wrong you may not be covered.

By purchasing a dual core 1 gigabyte of memory machine you will not
only be covering yourself with another 2 year of hardware warranty but
you will be future proofing your machine for a lot longer than you
would if you were to only make the small step of upgrading the machine
to the next processor up. In the long run this will save you money.

You can think of it like this.

today you have a 40GIG hard drive, you need to save 45 gig of data,
now you have two options, do you A go for an 80gig drive and spend 50
dollars, to find out that in 3 months you need to save 85 gig of data,
or do you spend 100 dollars and get the 160 gig drive to find out you
don't need spend any more on your computer for another 2 years?

The advise I have always been given and I have told my clients is,
ALWAYS go for as fast and new as you can. It is ok making little stop
gaps but they will never be good enough for you.

I feel that by upgrading your current laptop to the next base up you
will not be doing yourself the justice you need for CAD work and you
will be almost purchasing a new laptop without the warranty or case.

After I have spoken to the Acer technical support department directly
I will write out what they have told me including Acer laptop model
numbers that will server your purposes.

--Keystroke-ga

Request for Question Clarification by keystroke-ga on 01 Aug 2006 04:17 PDT
First of all I would like to apologise for the atrocious quality of my
English in the last posting I made.

I have just spoken to Acer technical support and their advice was

"We do not advise upgrading the CPU of any Acer laptop, the airflows
and ducts are specifically designed to cool the one type of processor
that is shipped with the laptop, changing the processor and
motherboard will generate more heat due to the different placing of
items and thusly create an unstable system. The best thing to do is
get a new laptop".

I will research the best options for you on the Acer website (you
already have the Dell items I advised). Hopefully we can sort
something out for you today.

--Keystroke-ga
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Subject: Re: Acer Aspire laptop / notebook upgrade help
Answered By: keystroke-ga on 01 Aug 2006 04:18 PDT
 
I have just spoken to Acer technical support and their advice was

"We do not advise upgrading the CPU of any Acer laptop, the airflows
and ducts are specifically designed to cool the one type of processor
that is shipped with the laptop, changing the processor and
motherboard will generate more heat due to the different placing of
items and thusly create an unstable system. The best thing to do is
get a new laptop".

I will research the best options for you on the Acer website (you
already have the Dell items I advised). Hopefully we can sort
something out for you today.

--Keystroke-ga

Clarification of Answer by keystroke-ga on 01 Aug 2006 04:48 PDT
The perfect Acer laptop for your situation is the Aspire 9800

http://us.acer.com/acereuro/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=17277&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=2619769406
It has 2Gigabytes of Dual Channel DDR2 memory (fast) with a Dual core 2.16GHZ CPU.

This laptop is the same Specification as the one I am currently using
(Dell Latitude D510 I do not do CAD work though) which for
programming, writing text documents, using virtual PC images (very CPU
intensive), web browsing, distributed computing projects, email and
Half life gaming (Don't tell the boss) works absolutely perfectly.
http://us.acer.com/acereuro/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=12847&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=363485870

An alternative option from the Acer website would  be the following laptop,

http://us.acer.com/acereuro/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=14537&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=1293932712

It has a dual core processor, has expandability to 2GB of memory,
Depending on your choice at purchase time it will come with an
excellent graphics card, either the ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 or the
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 (you would be best off the X1600 but the
cost will be more). With a maximum hard drive capacity of 120GB you
will have plenty of room to store your design work without worrying
about the space that you require.

I do not know your usual supplier of laptops but I believe they are
the best people to speak to with regard to pricing.

My advice is as follows:

1 You cannot upgrade your current laptop to the new Pentium M single core CPU.
2 It is NOT in your best interest to purchase a standard Pentium M single Core CPU.
3 To future proof your laptop for a longer period of time than a
single core Pentium M would, I advise you to opt for the Dual Core
Intel Core Duo CPUs. They are more energy efficient core for core than
the Intel Pentium M CPUS (this means longer battery life) and they
will be able to run more applications for longer. When your CAD
software is designed to take advantage of dual core CPUs you will
already have the technology to use this.
4 An upgraded graphics card may be wise in order to ensure that your
design work is not unduly affected by slowness of the machine. This
however is not an essential item but I would advise that you consider
it as an option.
5 A new laptop means a new warranty which is never a bad thing.
Opening your laptop to replace the motherboard WILL void your warranty
which will leave you on your own when it comes to having problems with
the laptop.

I hope this has given you some good information and helps you along
the way. If you have any other questions or queries do not hesitate to
ask them.

--Keystroke-ga.
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